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Post by Vaughan Stanger on Jun 7, 2014 15:14:52 GMT
I'd guess that the BBC doesn't have the money to animate it, they don't think it will sell on its own with two stills-and-audio-only episodes out of four, and they can't think of what to append it to. I wish they'd put TUM ep.2 on The Moonbase DVD.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 7, 2014 16:13:17 GMT
I really don't think this is it. I can see Planet 55 moving to the UK and the project being revived. Patience people, patience!
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Post by Will Weller on Jun 8, 2014 11:59:48 GMT
I really don't think this is it. I can see Planet 55 moving to the UK and the project being revived. Patience people, patience! I also believe that the project will be revived. We might finally get the DVD at the end of this year or early 2015...
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Jun 8, 2014 12:59:12 GMT
The title of this thread (and the other, seriously they need to be merged) is misleading and inaccurate.
Roberts is not in any position to officially declare a product dead. His quote merely indicates that HE hasn't heard anything else about TUM, and that he has nothing else to restore (so his part of the range is certainly dead).
This does not mean TUM is cancelled. Indeed, over on Frontios a couple people have been messaging the BBC and they are saying it is still in development.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 8, 2014 14:36:06 GMT
The title of this thread (and the other, seriously they need to be merged) is misleading and inaccurate. Roberts is not in any position to officially declare a product dead. His quote merely indicates that HE hasn't heard anything else about TUM, and that he has nothing else to restore (so his part of the range is certainly dead). This does not mean TUM is cancelled. Indeed, over on Frontios a couple people have been messaging the BBC and they are saying it is still in development. Let's hope we get some decent extras, commentaries and info text then. If it really is the end of the range then you would want it to go out with a bang, possibly even a feature about the production and marketing of the range itself. I'm sure there are a lot of questions that need to be raised about some of the decisions that were made when it came to releasing particular stories in box sets - for example the unfortunate grouping of Warriors of the Deep with 2 classic stories in the Beneath the Surface box set!
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Post by James Mcgrath on Jun 8, 2014 18:15:55 GMT
I'm sure there are a lot of questions that need to be raised about some of the decisions that were made when it came to releasing particular stories in box sets - for example the unfortunate grouping of Warriors of the Deep with 2 classic stories in the Beneath the Surface box set! Well that made sense to me at the time. They are all Silurian/Sea devil stories after all. It would seem weird not to include it I think.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 8, 2014 18:47:24 GMT
I'm sure there are a lot of questions that need to be raised about some of the decisions that were made when it came to releasing particular stories in box sets - for example the unfortunate grouping of Warriors of the Deep with 2 classic stories in the Beneath the Surface box set! Well that made sense to me at the time. They are all Silurian/Sea devil stories after all. It would seem weird not to include it I think. You're quite right James, it was just my personal gripe that's all. I get migraines looking at continuously bright, blinding lights!
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jun 9, 2014 0:22:01 GMT
I'd guess that the BBC doesn't have the money to animate it, they don't think it will sell on its own with two stills-and-audio-only episodes out of four, and they can't think of what to append it to. As it's own DVD the story is missing the final episode, which is probably why The Moonbase got it's own DVD whereas The Crusade didn't.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Jun 9, 2014 12:11:46 GMT
I'd guess that the BBC doesn't have the money to animate it, they don't think it will sell on its own with two stills-and-audio-only episodes out of four, and they can't think of what to append it to. As it's own DVD the story is missing the final episode, which is probably why The Moonbase got it's own DVD whereas The Crusade didn't. They animated both Moonbase and Tenth Planet, and as far as we know animation could still be in the works for UM. I don't think having the last episode missing is any necessary reason to not go ahead with the project. I think that at one stage Dan Hall asked which serials to avoid animating if Phil Morris was out trying to find them. Crusade was sold to plenty of places that Morris could be looking in, so perhaps he was told to "hold off for now". While Reign of Terror was probably commissioned early on and all the others are so rare that animation seemed like an okay risk. That's a theory anyway
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Post by Will Weller on Jun 9, 2014 12:33:42 GMT
They animated both Moonbase and Tenth Planet, and as far as we know animation could still be in the works for UM. I don't think having the last episode missing is any necessary reason to not go ahead with the project. I think that at one stage Dan Hall asked which serials to avoid animating if Phil Morris was out trying to find them. Crusade was sold to plenty of places that Morris could be looking in, so perhaps he was told to "hold off for now". While Reign of Terror was probably commissioned early on and all the others are so rare that animation seemed like an okay risk. That's a theory anyway That's a very interesting theory Mark. It would make a lot of sense. I really don't think the the range is dead. Maybe it's just having a nap???
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Post by James Mcgrath on Jun 9, 2014 13:03:33 GMT
You're quite right James, it was just my personal gripe that's all. I get migraines looking at continuously bright, blinding lights! Yeah, the lighting and visuals let the story down allot. But I've always thought that the story is sound. It's certainly better than Delta and the Bannermen or anything else from series 24 for that matter.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 9, 2014 13:52:09 GMT
You're quite right James, it was just my personal gripe that's all. I get migraines looking at continuously bright, blinding lights! Yeah, the lighting and visuals let the story down allot. But I've always thought that the story is sound. It's certainly better than Delta and the Bannermen or anything else from series 24 for that matter. So,the lighting lets the story down and the visuals let the story down...not a lot left is there?
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Post by George D on Jun 9, 2014 14:02:14 GMT
But is dan hall still in the picture?
Granted many may complain about what he could have done, but in his tenure we got some amazing colourizations, animations, restorarations and extras.
With the rt, they made dr who dvds a work of art.
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Post by James Mcgrath on Jun 9, 2014 20:07:26 GMT
So,the lighting lets the story down and the visuals let the story down...not a lot left is there? Well there is the acting, the script/writing and sound design to name a few. All of which are sort of average for this story.
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Post by George D on Jun 9, 2014 20:13:01 GMT
Could be said for the jnt era, onwards
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