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Post by Richard Tipple on Aug 21, 2016 10:07:32 GMT
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Post by Richard Tipple on Aug 20, 2016 22:31:31 GMT
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Post by Richard Tipple on Aug 12, 2016 10:46:44 GMT
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Post by Richard Tipple on Aug 11, 2016 23:33:11 GMT
Ticks every hoax box doesn't it? Can't get more pictures.. uses from still from wrong episode and of an existing telesnap..
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jul 25, 2016 19:16:03 GMT
I read the post and he said that it said ¨FF¨ on the label (or something like that) and FF is the Production Code for The Highlanders, so if that was real and its not mislabeled I hope he/she take it to BBC Studios or contact somebody that works with this. I wouldn't be surprised if Production Codes of this nature were used on the original cans/copied across to new ones.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jul 25, 2016 18:50:29 GMT
Friends, surely this can only mean that the final announcement is on the horizon? - obversebooks.co.uk/product/chasing-shadows/This can't only be a book about a search that culminated in 9 recovered episodes and 1 stolen episode? I mean, I'd read a book about that - it's impressive enough - but we were told last year that the search is winding down, and now this book is coming out??? What else is there left to write about? If this book is going to reveal all, it surely follows that an announcement will come beforehand, to coincide with the books release? With no new series this year and the news about Bill released, there would never be a better time than now for the next batch of discoveries to be given the full spotlight. A now we have this rumour circulating at conventions etc. that the i-tunes releases will begin with the heavy-weight release of "Power of the Daleks", this November! - forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1823267&page=244 If this and the rumour of Peter Cushing's return to Star Wars are both true, then 2016 is going to be a year long remembered by fans of sci-fi! I cannot fathom your reasoning at all. This book being released has absolutely no bearing what so ever on any upcoming announcement. It merely documents the rumours we endured that coincided with the return of EOTW and WoF. We all want the omni-rumour to be true - wouldn't it be wonderful if it was - even partially so!? And I personally hold the belief that Phil Morris has found more, but until he has finished his search he isn't going to reveal anything - a stance he's been forced to take with the sad theft of WoF3. I don't believe this book indicates that Phil is ready to show his hand,
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 28, 2016 14:37:58 GMT
It's funny, I remember watching every serial in the last Troughton season except for..... the Space Pirates, I can't remember a thing about it, I wonder why? LOL. Mind you, it doesn't necessarily mean that it was a poor serial, I can't remember anything about Fury either which looks to have been brilliant, while remembering Evil, Snowmen and Web in detail which were all great. How did you find watching Web again after so many years? Were there bits you'd forgotten about or bits you remembered surprisingly well?
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 24, 2016 22:40:07 GMT
And SOLD for an eye watering £870.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 21, 2016 8:09:00 GMT
On a slightly different note, thinking about the Celestial Toymaker, which story would be the most upsetting to discover it was actually terrible?! (NB: I actually love the orphan Celestial Toymaker episode, but I know when it was discovered many were alarmed how much it mismatched the legend!). Oh nice twist. I think, for me at least, it would have to be Marco Polo. Imagine after all the hype it just didn't translate well!
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 20, 2016 20:29:23 GMT
Hi all,
I have a confession to make: I always found Galaxy 4 quite difficult to get through,
Despite this, when the news filtered through that Air Lock had be found I was delighted. Like any Doctor Who fan, the idea of watching material thought lost forever was tantalising. For decades all we had of Galaxy 4 were those precious few minutes of episode one to pour over.. not any longer.
I knew the story, a classic 'Don't judge a book by it's cover.' job - what could 'Air Lock' possibly bring to the party? Well, as it turns out, an awful lot! The Rills! Stephanie Bidmead's performance! THAT flashback sequence. I wasn't expecting much, which made it even more impressive.
I've heard similar stories from fans that considered 'Tomb' the holy grail, and - while delighted with it's return - felt it didn't live up to it's mythos. Indeed, I always struggled with Enemy of the World - and was blown away by it when I watched it. It's one of my favourite Troughton's!
So a question for you all, what 'unfashionable'* episode do you believe to be a secret firecracker?
*By unfashionable I mean not, TP4 or Power 1, but Space Pirates 5, or The Smugglers 2.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 20, 2016 19:50:39 GMT
As for the two telerecordings for sale at the same time, I'm glad you agree with me. As per my example of the 'Land of Fear' print. That was clearly not a dupe, and therefore the purchase price was significantly higher than the dupes I listed previously. I don't think you can take that as me agreeing with you. There wasn't really anything in the original eBay sale of 'A Land of Fear' to indicate that it it was an original telerecording as opposed to a dupe and opinion was split as to whether it was actually an original or not. I said an original telerecording (Land of Fear as an example) will sell for more than an 80's dupe. You replied, "I'd also guess that if you had two telerecordings up for sale at the same time, one confirmed as being a 1960s BBC Enterprises original and the other being a 1980s third-party copy then the price reached would be somewhat different." I'd say that is agreeing with me.. As I've said numerous times, on eBay, £500-£750 seems to be the market rate for dupes - I imagine this will go for similar.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 20, 2016 16:42:37 GMT
I don't think people will assume anything, that's just how much dupes are selling for, look at The Centre, Web of Fear 1, Evil 2.. All sold recently-ish on eBay for between £500-£750. Are you telling me every buyer thought they were getting a genuine BBC telerecording? I don't buy that. You might well have been aware when you bought The Centre but I, like you, can't speak for the others. However, given the number of people who seem to be unaware that copies were made in the 1980s whenever a print shows up on eBay and this subject is talked about, I'd say that there's plenty of potential customers that would be none the wiser on the subject. If someone buys it and they're happy with their purchase regardless of it's provenience then that's fine, but I'd also guess that if you had two telerecordings up for sale at the same time, one confirmed as being a 1960s BBC Enterprises original and the other being a 1980s third-party copy then the price reached would be somewhat different. Plenty of people wouldn't be aware, but plenty now are. Hence why I mentioned Reddit - I was surprised at quite how many users knew about 80's dupes. As ever, it's a case of buyer beware - but this print will probably sell for between £500-£750, as that's what dupes have sold for recently on eBay. As for the two telerecordings for sale at the same time, I'm glad you agree with me. As per my example of the 'Land of Fear' print. That was clearly not a dupe, and therefore the purchase price was significantly higher than the dupes I listed previously.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 20, 2016 8:26:20 GMT
Richard T -- I did't say anything about what it might or might not be worth - only that it wasn't an original T/R. -- Although in some of the cases, he borrowed original negatives and made prints - so if this is one of those, then it would be as good as an original... I recognize the seller's ID - but can't remember who it is.. I believe it's the same guy that sold The Center a few years ago,
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 20, 2016 7:57:32 GMT
I don't think there's any deception either. That said it'll sell for what the market deems it's worth - but with people assuming that it's a genuine BBC telerecording. Will they? I'm not sure you're giving them enough credit. There was a recent thread on reddit about 16mm Doctor Who and people raised the question of 80's dupes - so it's a much more informed market than you may suspect. And that's from a forum with - I'd wager - a significantly different demographic to this! I don't think people will assume anything, that's just how much dupes are selling for, look at The Centre, Web of Fear 1, Evil 2.. All sold recently-ish on eBay for between £500-£750. Are you telling me every buyer thought they were getting a genuine BBC telerecording? I don't buy that. This is just what the market is settling at - and justifies the significantly raised price of the Land of Fear print.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jun 19, 2016 21:55:40 GMT
Surely, it's worth whatever people are willing to pay for it? Dupe or no dupe, these prints are very collectable now. Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The question is whether people are unknowingly spending out a lot of money for something that they assume is an original BBC telerecording only to find out that it's actually a much later copy. Lots have people have bought props on eBay that they've assumed to be genuine, only to find out once they've spent their money that their expensive item actually wasn't screen-used at all but just a fan copy. You could say that they should be happy with their purchase as the item at least looks like it was screen-used, but I think many of them would argue otherwise. As a copy, it's really not worth a fraction of an original. Absolutely, but I don't think there's any attempt at deception here - It doesn't claim to be an original BBC telerecording. It'll sell for what the market deems it's worth,
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