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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 16, 2012 18:35:00 GMT
I have a complete copy of the episode here. Kal also hold a recording of it. That's great to know. Any idea if Uncle Travelling Matt presenting CITV exists? I have a very short clip of it - literally just a few seconds.
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 16, 2012 15:00:09 GMT
I noticed someone uploaded the first two parts of The Bells Of Fraggle Rock onto Youtube, but for some reason not the last part. There is a breakdown in transmission on that copy that falls right in the middle of a scene set in Fraggle rock. If this is the only copy I would hope that nothing from the outside world was missed. I also noticed that the opening credits shot inside the lighthouse seems to be a one off featuring Christmas decorations. It looks like the recording only just caught this as well as the opening is clipped. I have a complete copy of the episode here. Kal also hold a recording of it.
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 16, 2012 14:59:36 GMT
steven g: Thanks for the links, it's interesting to compare the US and UK versions. Alex Dering: Have you tried the YouTube user TheMeakers, www.youtube.com/user/TheMeakers, who uploaded the studio footage? He must be one of the leading authorities on TVS if you can get a message to him. He also uploaded a complete episode in the last few days, he could have more. ~iw Already in contact :-)
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 16, 2012 11:47:51 GMT
Yes, that's the footage. There's about 30 minutes of it, covering three episodes from the final series, but unfortunately it isn't enough to reconstruct the shows. The opening of the clip on YT is from 'A Tune for Two', and appears to be the final scene plus a cutaway shot from an earlier scene. The remainder of the material is the first and last scenes from 'Beyond the Pond' (but maddeningly not the middle scene, which I'm fairly sure was shot on location) and multiple takes of the opening scene from 'Junior faces the Music'.
The singing was a one-off, and it's supposed to be bad :-) BJ and Sprocket are entering a talent-contest...! I have the two episodes 'Admeek' refers to - they are 'Sprocket's Big Adventure' and 'Uncle Matt's Discovery'.
I don't have a full history of repeat broadcasts, but: all repeats were on ITV, most were of episodes from the first and second series; and none of Fulton Mackay's episodes were repeated after he died. All showings since TVS closed down have been of the US version of the show.
All told, of the 96 shows produced, 29 definitely exist in broadcast-quality - the 12 available on DVD, plus a further 17 at the BFI. I'm trying to find out whether Henson are aware of the latter. In addition I have a further 28 on VHS, mostly as off-air recordings, so 57 exist in some form. I have copies of 46 of these, including VHS copies of 6 of the episodes that the BFI hold (although not from their tapes!). I have passed my recordings on to Kal for preservation.
As always, if anyone knows of any episodes not on my list, or has copies of the 11 marked solely as 'BFI', I'd love to hear from you :-)
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 15, 2012 22:24:32 GMT
Okay; I've changed it to clarify. Well...it's better, but why not just list the eight titles and remove all ambiguity? :-)
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 15, 2012 20:54:19 GMT
So the list of Hartnells returned in '75 would then be: {list snipped} Yep. Thanks :-) As I said, the way the article is worded does give the impression that they returned far more :-(
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 15, 2012 20:06:25 GMT
For completeness then, did they return 'The Time Meddler' along with the other two S2 serials? Yes, they did. Thanks :-) So the list of Hartnells returned in '75 would then be: The Space Museum The Chase The Time Meddler Galaxy 4 The Myth Makers The Ark The Smugglers The Tenth Planet
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 14, 2012 22:56:13 GMT
Ah, right. But they were the only two Hartnells from that run which the ABC bought and did not send back in '75, yes? From the third season, the ABC returned just three: Galaxy 4, The Myth Makers and The Ark. Oh, right! I took the way the article is phrased to mean that they'd returned far more of Season 3 than is actually the case. For completeness then, did they return 'The Time Meddler' along with the other two S2 serials?
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 14, 2012 20:22:57 GMT
I singled out those two stories only because episodes were found in Australia. Ah, right. But they were the only two Hartnells from that run which the ABC bought and did not send back in '75, yes? Interesting. Actually, has any research been done into exactly how the various 16mm prints held by the FL in 1978 came to be there? I realise that many of them would have ended up there by default, but why were those specific prints knocking about in the first place? That's the other explanation, of course :-) I believe I read the speculation about a possible second print in Wiped! a little while back.
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 14, 2012 19:03:29 GMT
Thanks Jon, that's what I expected :-) I didn't think the DMP episodes would have been in there, but BroaDWcast is slightly ambiguous in that it states that the consignment was of 'most of the serials from the run of The Space Museum through to The Tenth Planet' and then goes on to list 'Toymaker' and 'War Machines' as not being included. This gives the impression that those were the *only* serials not included...
Were the ABC's copies of 'The Dominators' the ones sent to the BFI, or did they just receive negatives?
A further thought had occurred...IIRC, the 1976 'Whose Doctor Who' list noted the existence of Web:1 at Enterprises in 1976 but the copy discovered there in 1978 had supposedly only been returned quite recently, leading to speculation that the print spotted two years previously might have been a different one which had since been lost. Idle speculation on my part: maybe the '76 print was ex-ABC? :-)
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Post by Alex Taylor on Apr 14, 2012 13:51:31 GMT
A couple of questions occur...
- did the batch of episodes returned in '75 include Mission and Masterplan, or were these returned/junked in the 60s after rejection? - do we have any evidence that any of the surviving prints other than those explicitly mentioned may have come from this batch?
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Post by Alex Taylor on Mar 10, 2012 23:32:21 GMT
I notice that the print appears to have two audio channels recorded on it. Was this simply how 16mm prints were made at the time?
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Post by Alex Taylor on Mar 10, 2012 21:29:56 GMT
According to Wiped!, the 2" NTSC copies of 'Mind of Evil' were apparently returned to the BBC's Canadian office around the end of 1982, but were no longer there when the FVTL contacted them a few months later. Similarly Ian Levine recounted that he'd got in touch with someone at a US TV station just a few weeks after they'd junked their 2" tapes of 'The Daemons'.
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Post by Alex Taylor on Mar 10, 2012 19:13:39 GMT
So what does 16/4TU/23217 tell us? It just indicates that it's a 16mm telerecording made from BBC project code 23217, which refers to The Land of Fear. I know that '4T' refers to the source being 405-line VT, but what does the 'U' stand for? I take it also that there's no way to determine from the available information whether this is a stored-field print?
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Post by Alex Taylor on Feb 21, 2012 12:11:20 GMT
On a related note, does anyone know if the episodes of 'Sounds of the 80s' had individual titles?
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