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Post by Ian Wegg on Oct 25, 2011 17:55:04 GMT
Also from Southern, recently uploaded is a documentary " The Ocean Racers" which follows the crew of the yacht Zulu in the 1965 Fastnet race. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxeb6ER_ksEI've found it was broadcast on 10th August 1966 but it doesn't appear to be in ITNSource or Wessex. It was clearly filmed from a TV screen, I'm guessing by one of the people featured in it. ~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Oct 17, 2011 21:16:48 GMT
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Post by Ian Wegg on Sept 14, 2011 5:46:08 GMT
Can I just ask if there are plans to release the Children's TV Guide as a download?
Cheers,
~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Sept 7, 2011 8:19:41 GMT
The book The Box of Delights (Kingsley & Tibballs) contradicts my earlier reply about Police 5 starting on Southern in 1964. It has an entry in the year 1962 with a picture of Shaw Taylor in front of a map of Greater London holding a shoe. The caption reads: Before 1962, Shaw Taylor had been a television quizmaster, but when ATV found they had a five-minute gap in their schedules they offered the time to the Metropolitan Police as a public service. The result was 'Police 5', presented, as it has been ever since, by Taylor. I think there has been a bit of "misdirection" in that episode of Southern Gold. Shaw Taylor says that for the initial idea Stephen Wade had "been down to see the Metropolitan Police", a strange choice of phrase if you're in Southampton. Steve Wade was of course a veteran of Southern but I believe he didn't join them until 1966. So I'm inclined to go with the book, that Police 5 started on ATV in 1962. ATV was, of course, at that time the London franchise holder. Can anyone confirm if Steve Wade worked for ATV before Southern, or which contractor produced Pop the Question and The Chartbusters? I have at last discovered why it was called Police 5, it never occurred to me before it was the length of the programme! Reporter Peter Clark used to 'do' a crime slot on 'Day by Day', weekly I think. Indeed, he did Crime Desk for twenty years. I wonder what he's up to these days? ~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Sept 3, 2011 9:18:42 GMT
Yes, found it. Southern Gold S02E01 (1994) has an interview with Shaw Taylor. In the sixties he was presenting pop music shows Pop The Question and The Chartbusters when he was approached by Steve Wade. Steve had been tasked with filling a five minute slot for six weeks and had an idea for a crime show in collaboration with the police.
The date isn't mentioned other than it was "thirty years ago" so that would put it at 1964. Sadly no clips in the programme.
~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Sept 2, 2011 21:34:56 GMT
Were the TVS editions also presented by Shaw Taylor, Ian? I only have experience of the London version myself. It's a nice surprise to find that something substantial of the show exists in broadcast quality anyway, whichever region. Indeed, Shaw Taylor presented it in the south on TVS and, earlier, Southern. In fact I have a faint suspicion that the programme may actually have begun as an item on Southern's Day By Day before LWT got it. If I can find some evidence for that I will post it here. "Keep 'em peeled"! ~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Sept 2, 2011 8:22:51 GMT
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Post by Ian Wegg on Aug 24, 2011 21:25:52 GMT
- what happened to the TVS archive after they closed down? Now there's a question! The short answer is that by a twist of history the greater part is legally owned by Disney. However they have no interest in it or the associated paperwork, rendering it effectively "lost". There is some information and discussion in the "Terminally Unreleasable" topic over at m-club here: www.mausoleumclubforum.org.uk/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=14661. Look at the later postings by Scene South East and Greg Taylor~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Aug 10, 2011 21:28:34 GMT
Relevant to me, I was at the recording of one of those - the Hovercraft one www.bbc.co.uk/archive/great_egg_race/10810.shtml. I'm visible centre in the audience at 18 minutes wearing a brown suede jacket, which scarily I still have! I agree Heinz Wolff was very affable, happy to talk with the audience after the recording. ~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Jul 9, 2011 6:40:52 GMT
No, I don't believe it would have been broadcast live. I read that KAL comment to mean that the programme might not exist at all. That is, it had been originally planned for that date but for some reason not broadcast and possibly not even recorded in the first place. Unfortunately the Times online archive has a gap between 20 Dec 1982 and 3 Jan 1983 so I can't check to see what actually went out that night. Does anyone have a Christmas Radio Times for 1982? ~iw [Edit]: Although not definitive, I see that the BFI and IMDB both show only two broadcasts for 1982, 10 May and 23 May, nothing for 31 Dec. ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/series/8250 | www.imdb.com/title/tt0480300/episodes
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Post by Ian Wegg on Jul 3, 2011 7:24:16 GMT
I just downloaded it and took a quick look frame by frame. During each scene individual frames are duplicated either once or twice, roughly in the sequence 2-2-3... This results in 10 original frames every 24, which accounts for the slow motion. During the dissolve the ratio is upped to 18 out of 24.
Not sure quite how this happened, possibly it's been through a frame rate conversion process multiple times. In any case, I think if the dissolves had been added by editing software there wouldn't be this difference. Also there are no straight cuts between scenes, every single one dissolves.
~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Jul 2, 2011 7:00:14 GMT
I think the dissolves may be a side effect of the digital conversion process, all of my converted Super8 films exhibit a small dissolve between scenes. To digitise Super8 properly you have to take into account the different frame rates which involves inserting additional interpolated frames. This video appears to run in slow motion so maybe the conversion was too extreme making the dissolves longer.
I agree it looks like a rehearsal.
A good find.
~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Jun 10, 2011 10:28:57 GMT
Thank you Simon - I wrongly thought the recent transfers were recoveries (I spoke to Simon this morning via email); he is delighted to have much of this back in his possession, which was not the case before. The tx dates are also being found out by Ian Wegg. These are the same films as your 2009 find, as you correctly say. I have tasked myself with that although it is proving a challenge. The Southern editions of the TV Times do not contain details of individual episodes, so therefore all I have managed to do so far is confirm which dates an OoT of some kind was transmitted. ~iw
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Post by Ian Wegg on Apr 21, 2011 7:41:18 GMT
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Post by Ian Wegg on Apr 14, 2011 19:35:25 GMT
A second follow up in the latest Petersfield / Bordon Post is a contribution from Simon himself. Once again a scan of the article: www.wegg.org/downloads/Longmoor3.pdfNatterjack concludes the latest article: " ...thanks are due to Simon for helping to ensure that memories such as this historic Longmoor moment weren't lost forever. I'd appealed for photographs of the Saturday Night Out train crash but never dreamed film of this early 'live' TV moment had survived." ~iw
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