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Post by Ed Brown on Jan 29, 2017 21:20:06 GMT
No one in the USA, Canada or even Australia was interested in Genesis of the Daleks as it had been shown to death on assorted affricates of PBS, TV Ontario and the ABC over and over again. Earth Shock was interesting as if was in the 50 minute format. The Cures of Peladon was of interest as it was the chance to get an off air copy of 2 episodes in full PAL color. In this repeat, Genesis of the Daleks was a big disappointment, as it was so heavily edited: 2 x 45 minutes was all we saw of it, IIRC, even though it was a 6-parter. We had to wait until the 1990s for a complete tv repeat of this serial. But Curse of Peladon, at least, was shown in full, as 2 x 45 minutes, with only the closing credits from one episode and the opening credits from the next being dropped at the 22 minute point, so that none of the actual story was lost. I remember how poor the picture quality was on the first 45 minute part, due to it being an NTSC conversion. Earthshock (another 4-parter) was at the time a very recent serial, which had only just been shown on its first transmission, in the new 2-episodes-a-week format introduced with Peter Davison, so no one in the UK paid much attention to the fact that it was being repeated as two 45-minute compilations. Say what you will about the dreaded JNT, but he fought very hard for the show in his early years in the job, getting two big repeat seasons aired, with The Five Faces season in 1981 and then this Doctor Who and the Monsters season, plus getting a big anniversary special on air for the 20th Anniversary that November. He pushed through more repeats than the show had ever had before.
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Post by Ed Brown on Jan 29, 2017 21:00:23 GMT
The Sea Devils 88-minute compilation was ... shown again in place of the cricket on Monday 27 May 1974. I think that might have been a Bank Holiday in 1974, as I remember seeing this compilation. From memory, I was off-school, on holiday. Which suggests it wasn't a normal working day. The BBC agree. That afternoon, Dr Who replaced 'Holiday Grandstand', which the Radio Times says was scheduled to run from 1.15pm, with Frank Bough, and cover a cricket match from Headingley (Yorkshire v Lancashire, the afternoon's play in the Roses Match): genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1974-05-27I can't specifically recall how long the running time of this repeat of The Sea Devils was, beyond a vague impression that it lasted most of the afternoon. Nor do I recall enough about it to comment on which bits might have been omitted in reducing its running time down to (if you say so) 90 minutes. Someone else mentioned The Daemons, regarding its omnibus repeat at Christmas 1971. Probably because it was Christmas, when the BBC used to have eons of screentime to fill due to suspension of normal programmes, my impression is that it was shown in full, and not edited at all for length - except possibly for the removal of opening and closing title sequences. Sadly, the BBC say it was shown in a 90 minute timeslot, from 4.20pm to 5.50pm: genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1971-12-28I have a similar memory for Planet of the Spiders, when it was repeated at Christmas 1974, the day before Tom Baker made his debut, i.e. that 'Spiders' was shown in full. Again, sadly, the BBC reveal that the repeat ran only 1 hour 45 minutes, from 2.45pm: genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1974-12-27
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Post by Ed Brown on Nov 21, 2016 21:39:20 GMT
I can report that Stephen Poppitt's website about Jimmy Clitheroe has not disappeared, but simply moved (due, I'm told, to a problem with the previous hosting company), and can be found at - myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bridip/clitheroe/Additionally, a collection of Jimmy Clitheroe related recordings, including some recent BBC broadcasts of editions from 1959, has surfaced at - www.mediafire.com/?kwahhoo42apwcAnd two hundred Jimmy Clitheroe recordings are on YouTube, in the name of user Dermot A Maher, at - www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgqlYvQ8158&list=PLu3s2MPj6MskjcGdWB0ghe6-xaF09ZyWmFor YouTube, I recommend this add-on extension for Firefox (You Tube Video and Audio Downloader 0.5.5) - addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-video-and-audio-dow/?src=api
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Post by Ed Brown on Nov 15, 2014 16:13:30 GMT
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Post by Ed Brown on Nov 15, 2014 15:25:32 GMT
How strange. How very, very strange. Sorry I missed your posting about Caversham. Sometimes I only rapidly scan these threads. My memory of Rolf, a lad in a hospital bed, a few weeks before the Evil repeat, and the clip of the battle being shown are very clear. I have only worked out it was Meet the Kids but even that I'm pretty certain about. Does anyone have access to the Radio Times from that era? Yes! Here are all the listings for 'Meet the Kids' - genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?order=asc&q=%22Meet+the+Kids%22Leslie Crowther presented it until 1967. Rolf didn't do it until Christmas 1969. Here are the full listings for 'Spoonful of Sugar', which had a heap of episodes in both 1967 and 1968, not just the one you specified - genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?q=%22Spoonful+of+Sugar%22&order=asc
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Post by Ed Brown on Nov 15, 2014 14:48:16 GMT
Yeah, I too noticed he'd obviously never watched the serial, and so had no idea how to pronounce the name.
He did the same thing on a previous occasion. I think it was 'Masque of Mandragora'. He didn't have a clue how to pronounce it.
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Post by Ed Brown on Nov 15, 2014 14:25:09 GMT
This is a bit of an unrealistic question!
That sort of thing is much less likely to occur with Hartnell or Troughton material, as sadly so few of the actors are still alive to raise such issues.
None of the regular cast have ever done so, of course, so there is no reason to suppose they would suddenly do so now.
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Post by Ed Brown on Jul 28, 2014 1:53:55 GMT
I've always understood that the original Pertwee title sequence was shot entirely in black & white (except for his face) and then coloured manually after initial tests apparently showed that the howlround technique didn't work very well with colour equipment. It has always been my understanding that producer Derrick Sherwin discovered in 1969 that 'howl around', as a feedback effect, was something which only occured on the old 405-line b/w tv cameras, but did not occur with the newly introduced EMI 2001 625-line colour cameras. This, it appears, is the reason why the howl-around sequence for the 1970 season's titles had to be recorded in black-and-white, since it was only possible to create the effect using the traditional b/w tv cameras, which were just then being taken out of service as BBC1 went over to colour, in November '69.
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Post by Ed Brown on Jul 27, 2014 22:14:51 GMT
An interesting item came my way this week, that shows how, in spite of everything, recordings believed to be long since lost can be found - stored within BBC premises in London!
This, I promise you, is not a hoax, though it relates to radio recordings rather than television.
Nevertheless, over two thousand (!) recordings of a radio show came to light...
Monday 30 June BBC RADIO 4 EXTRA Ep 1 Monday 30 June to Tuesday 1 July 6.30-7.00am
"Ambridge In The Decade Of Love"
In 2003, clearing a radio storeroom in London, staff uncovered a collection of boxes of BBC LPs labelled 'The Archers'. They turned out to be 2,670 episodes of the serial, covering the entire 1960s, hitherto believed lost.
Richard Stilgoe presents two programmes opening the lid of this treasure chest to find out how the Ambridge village community reacted to the generation of teddy boys, rock 'n' roll and the pill - when Jennifer Archer (now Aldridge) was a 14-year-old schoolgirl on her first date, and newborn David Archer uttered his first wail.
Just how did Ambridge cope with the Swinging Sixties?
First broadcast on Radio 4 in 2003.
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Post by Ed Brown on Jul 25, 2014 1:02:20 GMT
The most interesting point is that the only reference linking 'Web of Fear' and 'Enemy of the World', in all the mess of conflicting rumours in 2013, was one sole instance where they were jointly linked to 'Marco Polo', by Bleeding Cool on August 24th last, something which implies that 'Marco Polo' is most probably the other story found.
None of the other rumours which were reported turned out to have any basis of fact, that one was the only one which events later showed had some actual truth to it.
The truth of what he was saying was confirmed when the author of the article, Rich Johnston, was banned from Gallifrey Base because of his report. And by the official announcement of the recovery of 'Web' and 'Enemy'.
There has been a lot of ill-informed speculation as to why 'Web' and 'Enemy' were chosen for release. In fact, the reason is quite obvious. Episode 6 of 'Enemy' has a cliff-hanger ending, and the start of Episode 1 of 'Web' does not make sense on its own, as it resolves that cliff-hanger. It would not be practicable to put either serial on sale to the general public on its own; they necessarily have to be made available together, since they support each other because of the cliffhanger linking them.
There is no credibility in the ludicrous rumour that 90+ episodes have been found. If that were so, the Restoration Team would be contracted to the BBC until 2025 or later.
And it would be impossible, obviously, to get 90+ episodes ready for a March 2015 release date.
We can perhaps look forward to a modest recovery, of one more complete or nearly complete serial, most likely 'Marco Polo'; and perhaps one or two random 'orphaned' episodes, possibly completing a serial that is already mostly in existence, such as 'The French Revolution' from the same season.
Edit: The likelihood is that the choice of 'Web of Fear' as the lead story for release was dictated by its being the most high profile of the serials actually recovered, which means, unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that any Dalek or Cyberman serial has been found, since those would have been the natural choice to lead with, if available.
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Post by Ed Brown on Jul 25, 2014 0:02:48 GMT
I think the VHS of Revenge that has the introduction by Tom is the rental version that would have been found in the Blockbusters of their day. Have seen one sold on Ebay for over £100!!! The original bookcase version has sold for around £250 in the past. Even with a damaged case. My recollection is that, as far as I can recall, one of the problems with the original library case release of 'Revenge of the Cybermen' was that it only had hissy edge-track audio, i.e. it did not have a Hi-Fi audio track. If it's now a hot item on ebay, I'm sorry that I gave away mine when the re-release came out, which had decent quality audio. But it was not a rental tape. The so-called 'bookcase' version was sold in Woolworths when it was released; it was the very first Tom Baker serial sold on BBC Home Video, circa 1983.
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Post by Ed Brown on Apr 15, 2013 16:45:14 GMT
The pilot episode and the ten episodes of series 1 were broadcast. on Radio 4 Extra, beween 1 November 2012 and 17 January 2013 inclusive.
Series 2 was not included, presumably because two episodes from that series are lost.
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Post by Ed Brown on Apr 15, 2013 16:25:24 GMT
No radio episodes of Doctor Who have been recovered.
The earliest radio Dr Who production was the adaptation of 'The Dalek Invasion of Earth', broadcast in the mid-1960's; but this remains lost.
The Tom Baker / Liz Sladen production 'Exploration Earth' in 1976 for Radio 4 was never classed as 'lost'.
No other radio production was made until Colin Baker recorded 'Slipback' in the 1980s. And that was not wiped. 'The Pescatons' and the LP release of 'Genesis of the Daleks' were not radio productions.
The Pertwee radio serials 'Paradise of Death' and 'Ghosts of N Space', which were never junked, are the only 1990s radio productions of Dr Who, unless you count 'Whatever Happened To Dr Who's Grandaughter Susan Foreman'. which was also never 'lost'.
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Post by Ed Brown on Apr 15, 2013 16:14:50 GMT
Worth noting that at one stage the series changed tack and became 'The T.V.Lark',with the cast running an independent TV channel. Currently being broadcast on BBC Radio 4 extra Fridays 8am - must be getting near the end of the series now. Still on tomorrow and next Friday at least. The BBC have recovered only 9 of the 10 episodes of 'The TV Lark'.
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Post by Ed Brown on Apr 15, 2013 14:49:59 GMT
I have the consolidated episode guide to this series, 'Lines From My Grandfather's Forehead', which lists all of its broadcasts on Radio 7. There are no missing episodes from series 1 and 2.
Some individual sketches may have been written by, and even recorded by, Ronnie Barker in hopes of a third series; but I don't think it likely that any complete episodes exist.
More probably the recordings in question are rejected sketches, dropped from series 2 due to episodes over-running the allotted 30 minutes - sketches which might have found their way into series 3, if the show had been commissioned for a third series.
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