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Post by Brian Denton on Jan 24, 2014 20:58:07 GMT
The main confusion for me as a kid was trying to work out the line following "..whose intellectual close friends get to call him TC". Over the years I've heard many suggestions (usually while doing a 'those were the days' thing with drunken friends), but none of the suggested lyrics are very satisfactory.
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Post by briancook on Jan 24, 2014 22:08:13 GMT
The main confusion for me as a kid was trying to work out the line following "..whose intellectual close friends get to call him TC". Over the years I've heard many suggestions (usually while doing a 'those were the days' thing with drunken friends), but none of the suggested lyrics are very satisfactory. no matter what else you are told it's "providing its with dignity". Trust me. I'm right.
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Post by John Green on Jan 25, 2014 0:31:26 GMT
The main confusion for me as a kid was trying to work out the line following "..whose intellectual close friends get to call him TC". Over the years I've heard many suggestions (usually while doing a 'those were the days' thing with drunken friends), but none of the suggested lyrics are very satisfactory. And I thought that I was the only one on the board who liked dressing up as Mary Hopkin every so often... briancook is right about the lyrics,of course,though I'm having trouble getting them to scan. www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/topcatlyrics.html
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Post by Ian Wegg on Jan 25, 2014 7:52:25 GMT
briancook is right about the lyrics,of course,though I'm having trouble getting them to scan. Close . Friends . Get . To . Call-him-T-C Pro . Vie . Ding . It's . With-dig-ni-ty
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Post by Brian Denton on Jan 25, 2014 13:25:59 GMT
OK thanks. Yes I'd heard that, but it just doesn't seem to scan properly, especially the stresses on the different syllables of 'providing' which are all wrong. Quite often I find lyric sites (especially with Bob Dylan stuff) are unofficial in nature and aren't consistent. However, I'll have to give way on this !
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Post by martinjwills on Jan 27, 2014 20:47:24 GMT
Good to see that "Boss Cat" title sequence again after all these years - glad a copy exists! The TC / Boss Cat thing was a real head scratcher to me as a kid growing up in the '60s! Even at the time, it was plain to me the programme was "Top Cat" as the title song and all the characters in the series refer to him as such (there also was a short-lived Gold Key comic similarly titled). The BBC "Boss Cat" titling just divided the other kids in the playground though; some referred to the series by one name, some by the other. I was confused! Amazing that this old '60s BBC edit was still being shown in the late '80s though. I think i have 29 or 30 Boss Cats on VHS from the 1980s, i will get around to converting them to DVD sometime. I liked the jump on the closing titles where they cut the flashing "Top Cat" sign on the wall. On "paper" i have listed in my VHS Archive the following Boss Cats, in the original BBC format :- "Hawaii, Here We Come", "All That Jazz", "The $1,000,000 Derby", "The Violin Player", "The Missing Heir", "Top Cat Falls in Love", "A Visit from Mother" "Naked Town", "Sergeant Top Cat", "The Unscratchables", "Rafeefleas", "The Long Hot Winter", "The Case of the Absent Anteater", "T.C. Minds the Baby" "Farewell, Mr. Dibble", "The Grand Tour", "The Golden Fleecing", "Space Monkey", "The Late T.C.", "Dibble's Birthday", "The Con Men", "King for a Day" "Dibble Breaks the Record", "Dibble Sings Again", "Griswald", "Dibble's Double"
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Post by markboulton on Jan 31, 2014 7:31:50 GMT
OK thanks. Yes I'd heard that, but it just doesn't seem to scan properly, especially the stresses on the different syllables of 'providing' which are all wrong. Quite often I find lyric sites (especially with Bob Dylan stuff) are unofficial in nature and aren't consistent. However, I'll have to give way on this ! It certainly doesn't scan very well, that's for sure! It doesn't seem like they really nailed a decent lyric for that line and had to wedge a square peg into a round hole. Actually, thinking about it, I see why they did it that way now - it was a rhythmic device - to keep the same phrasing as "Close friends get to call him TC". Five straight crotchets followed by three quavers (then a 1.5 beat rest). It seems like it was considered more important by the composer to insert a little "see what I did there" than to give room for a lyric that worked better.
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Post by John Green on Jan 31, 2014 8:51:08 GMT
OK thanks. Yes I'd heard that, but it just doesn't seem to scan properly, especially the stresses on the different syllables of 'providing' which are all wrong. Quite often I find lyric sites (especially with Bob Dylan stuff) are unofficial in nature and aren't consistent. However, I'll have to give way on this ! It certainly doesn't scan very well, that's for sure! It doesn't seem like they really nailed a decent lyric for that line and had to wedge a square peg into a round hole. Actually, thinking about it, I see why they did it that way now - it was a rhythmic device - to keep the same phrasing as "Close friends get to call him TC". Five straight crotchets followed by three quavers (then a 1.5 beat rest). It seems like it was considered more important by the composer to insert a little "see what I did there" than to give room for a lyric that worked better. Nothing wrong with applying a mallet; when I first saw the lyrics to at-that-point un-released Dylan songs such as 'She's Your Lover Now',it was as though someone was trying to balance a mattress on a bottle of wine... Many kids-show lyrics are exceedingly clever.It's only on the page that this one looks wrong.As the Goons pointed out,even the word "I" can easily (though not happily) take up a line and a half!
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Post by martinjwills on Jan 31, 2014 13:15:44 GMT
I have updated my post above with what is listed in my records, there may be other episodes, not on the sheet, as it was written in 1988, and then i computerized it onto Commodore Amiga computer, and the records are still on that computers system, not compatable with PC format. I don't know the condition of the tapes as they are in storage, but when i have randomly pulled other tapes they play well, and convert to DVD. The episodes are recorded in SP speed and across many VHS tapes. I dont have a working VHS player at the moment, but will have one in February, so will pull the tapes for transfer ASAP if people think its worth it.
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Post by John Green on Feb 22, 2014 22:08:54 GMT
The 13/7/1971 episode of 'Father Dear Father','Come Back Little Sheba' features a scene in a pet shop,with lots of ads for 'Top Cat',so the BBC missed out on lots of product placement on an ITV show! There are also posters for 'Top Dog' meaty chunks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 9:52:33 GMT
Nothing wrong with applying a mallet; when I first saw the lyrics to at-that-point un-released Dylan songs such as 'She's Your Lover Now',it was as though someone was trying to balance a mattress on a bottle of wine... In Writings & Drawings, which was the first officially sanctioned collection of Bob Dylan's lyrics, whoever they got to transcribe Tell Me, Momma obviously gave up early on and just went with what the syllables sounded like ... it must have been hard given that the only recording of that song were live tapes from 1966, but still ... they ended up with a bizarre set of lyrics that just occasionally tied in with what I heard on my scratchy copy of Live At The Royal Albert Hall (actually, Free Trade Hall, Manchester). Clinton Heylin in his estimable tome Revolution In The Air is quite damning in his opinion of the hapless transcriber, but the fact remains that whoever did it made a total hash of it ... "We bone the editor, can't read, but his painted sled, instead it's a bed ..." indeed. Also in Writings & Drawings, they missed an entire verse out of She's Your Lover Now, ending the lyric where the ensemble version breaks down. There's a solo and complete piano version that's been doing the rounds for years.
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Post by Richard Marple on Feb 24, 2014 12:47:28 GMT
IIRC Writings & Drawings misses out all the songs from Self Portrait, which often makes it onto "bad albums by good artists" lists.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 13:49:37 GMT
IIRC Writings & Drawings misses out all the songs from Self Portrait, which often makes it onto "bad albums by good artists" lists. It's a shame about that, because it's not that bad. Rolling Stone's legendary review has a lot to do with this received wisdom. Problem was, Dylan wasn't Highway 61/Blonde On Blonde Dylan any more ...
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Post by John Green on Feb 24, 2014 16:04:53 GMT
IIRC Writings & Drawings misses out all the songs from Self Portrait, which often makes it onto "bad albums by good artists" lists. While Self Portrait is one of Dylan's best albums,there weren't a lot of new songs on there.And I'd rather hear "All the tired horses in the sun.How'm I gonna get any ridin'/writin' done" (both together) than have it settled.And surely 'Minstrel Boy' was there,with a drawing,yet? (I bought the original pink hardback-soon loose-leaf-the week it came out). A recent 'Isis' article has it that some of the WaD transcriptions may be of alternate takes,though not of this song.(Haven't had a chance to check the article). Unless there's a chance that 'Madhouse' is on the end of a 'Boss Cat' tape,we're getting a little (hee hee) off-topic.
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Post by robincarmody on Feb 24, 2014 17:10:23 GMT
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