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Post by Johnathan Molyneux on Feb 5, 2014 20:03:23 GMT
This is in the latest DWM ? What is the source of their information ? Isn't Ian Levine supposed to be in the next DWM? Probably the info comes from him.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 5, 2014 20:06:24 GMT
This is in the latest DWM ? What is the source of their information ? Isn't Ian Levine supposed to be in the next DWM? Probably the info comes from him. He's supposedly in there talking about the Taiwan episodes - but I haven't seen it.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 5, 2014 20:12:25 GMT
I would assume ian levine and his scouts.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 5, 2014 20:14:00 GMT
Full story given in DWM, the episodes were originally sent to Vietnam to the American Forces Network in the 1970s, these were then directly sent to Taiwan for a second broadcast then that was it. However, it is believed more episodes could be in Taiwan or have made their way to surrounding countries (Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Vietnam and Malaysia are all named but other countries in the region are possible). As is stated in the article "The Problem is finding them!" So there's the final answer, sent to Vietnam, bicycled to Taiwan. Now that has been settled, we need to find more details on what was sent and when (although obviously we are looking at the early 70s, but we could get that from the contents anyway). Sounds like it's merely a summary of what Levine said on Twitter and Facebook - and most of it's misinformed conjecture anyway. There wasn't even an Air Force TV station in Taiwan.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Feb 5, 2014 20:18:02 GMT
Full story given in DWM, the episodes were originally sent to Vietnam to the American Forces Network in the 1970s, these were then directly sent to Taiwan for a second broadcast then that was it. However, it is believed more episodes could be in Taiwan or have made their way to surrounding countries (Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Vietnam and Malaysia are all named but other countries in the region are possible). As is stated in the article "The Problem is finding them!" So there's the final answer, sent to Vietnam, bicycled to Taiwan. Now that has been settled, we need to find more details on what was sent and when (although obviously we are looking at the early 70s, but we could get that from the contents anyway). Sounds like it's merely a summary of what Levine said on Twitter and Facebook - and most of it's misinformed conjecture anyway. There wasn't even an Air Force TV station in Taiwan. Mind you , we do have Americans based here. Just not a lot of people know it ! What actually happened might be different. There was a cold war going on.
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Post by scotttelfer on Feb 5, 2014 21:55:16 GMT
Full story given in DWM, the episodes were originally sent to Vietnam to the American Forces Network in the 1970s, these were then directly sent to Taiwan for a second broadcast then that was it. However, it is believed more episodes could be in Taiwan or have made their way to surrounding countries (Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Vietnam and Malaysia are all named but other countries in the region are possible). As is stated in the article "The Problem is finding them!" So there's the final answer, sent to Vietnam, bicycled to Taiwan. Now that has been settled, we need to find more details on what was sent and when (although obviously we are looking at the early 70s, but we could get that from the contents anyway). Sounds like it's merely a summary of what Levine said on Twitter and Facebook - and most of it's misinformed conjecture anyway. There wasn't even an Air Force TV station in Taiwan.
Nobody said anything about an Air Force TV station. These were sent to the Armed Forces Taiwan Network, which was a part of the Armed Forces Network until it closed down in 1976 "after the US moved its diplomatic status to China". It was designed to cater for any US troops who were serving in Taiwan in the 60s and early 70s. The information and dates is all there and with Ian Levine contributing to the article and giving a detailed interview in it (taking up half the page the whole article got) I'd say they'd have checked everything with him.
Still interesting that these are indeed new prints and have exposed a new bicycling chain nobody ever knew about.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 5, 2014 22:03:31 GMT
I'll see if I can get the magazine tomorrow. I wonder if there was a "camp" newspaper containing programme listings ?
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Post by John Green on Feb 5, 2014 22:22:46 GMT
I'll see if I can get the magazine tomorrow. I wonder if there was a "camp" newspaper containing programme listings ? Or even one published on the base...
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Post by John Wall on Feb 5, 2014 22:25:51 GMT
I'll see if I can get the magazine tomorrow. I wonder if there was a "camp" newspaper containing programme listings ? Or even one published on the base... Edited by Liberace.....
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Post by Johnathan Molyneux on Feb 5, 2014 22:27:36 GMT
I'll see if I can get the magazine tomorrow. I wonder if there was a "camp" newspaper containing programme listings ? There's definitely a quip to be had about Doctor Who not being involved in anything camp until at least the late 70's but I'll try and resist. Okay I failed obviously.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 5, 2014 22:36:25 GMT
I'll see if I can get the magazine tomorrow. I wonder if there was a "camp" newspaper containing programme listings ? There's definitely a quip to be had about Doctor Who not being involved in anything camp until at least the late 70's but I'll try and resist. Okay I failed obviously. The Mods are exceedingly tolerant here
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 5, 2014 22:53:56 GMT
Nobody said anything about an Air Force TV station. These were sent to the Armed Forces Taiwan Network, which was a part of the Armed Forces Network until it closed down in 1976 "after the US moved its diplomatic status to China". According to Ian, the films were "directly sent to Taiwan for a second broadcast". AFTN was a radio station (I stand corrected: it was operated by the US navy, not air force). As I said, there wasn't a US TV station operating on Taiwan. So the films weren't sent to Taiwan for the reasons Ian suggests.
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Post by Marty Schultz on Feb 5, 2014 22:56:10 GMT
Or even one published on the base... Edited by Liberace..... You Sir... win a sock! Champagne comedy. I just laughed and spilled my coffee.
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Post by scotttelfer on Feb 5, 2014 23:10:59 GMT
Nobody said anything about an Air Force TV station. These were sent to the Armed Forces Taiwan Network, which was a part of the Armed Forces Network until it closed down in 1976 "after the US moved its diplomatic status to China". According to Ian, the films were "directly sent to Taiwan for a second broadcast". AFTN was a radio station. As I said, there wasn't a US TV station operating on Taiwan. So the films weren't sent to Taiwan for the reasons Ian suggests.
They sent them to Taiwan for a second broadcast, that doesn't necessarily mean a second broadcast actually happened. They could have messed up and thought there was a TV station and sent them all along, not realising it was only a radio station. Might explain why they just handed them out rather than dealing with them as other TV stations had, they didn't know what to do with them.
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Post by Robert Lia on Feb 5, 2014 23:39:06 GMT
Being Retired Military I can say if they were sent to Tiawan after a broadcast on AFVN Television it would have been for one of two reasons. The first is for shipping to another AFRTS broadcaster in the region (Philippines, Japan) or for screenings in a movie theater type enviorment
I have spoken with two former FEN Staffers from the early 1980's who would say it was not oout of the ordianry for material to end up on the shelfs gathering dust. Especially after a format change (8 track to Casstte, black and white kinoscope to color video tape) (LP or CD's)
Color film programs previously shown in black and white could be reshown in color but those old black and white kinoscopes made specialy by AFRTS were no longer needed as the colour video tapes could now be shown.
Examples of shows that AFRTS made kinoscxopes of for children were Sesame Street, New Zoo Review, Captain Kangaroo. These were 5 day a week video taped shows in the USA and after the US Networks CBS, ABC and NBC shifted to color. AFRTS had to make kinoscopes of those shows them selves. Which is why only one episode a week wsa aired of those programings. AFRTS also supplied kinoscopes up until 1976/77 of video taped programs like Hee Haw, Laugh In and Ed Sullivan. None of these shows were ever sydicated in the USA so AFRTS had to make there own kinoscopes (whihc are US Government property)
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