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Post by Marty Schultz on Dec 18, 2013 23:14:36 GMT
And while I'm on a roll.... Current TV still uses 4:3 action safe areas when filming in 16:9. Aaarghh. If you don't have a 16:9 tv then - letterbox or buy a new TV (if you can). It's just a stupid limitation on the creative process. End of rant.
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Post by nicadare on Dec 21, 2013 19:10:03 GMT
I can't watch anything not in the original ratio. I watch 4:3 pillar boxed and cinema ratios in letterbox. Though I don't go as far as some and watch old television on CRT. TOTP would look better on an old CRT than any modern day LED or plasma. The contrast ratio is superior.
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Post by Marty Schultz on Dec 21, 2013 22:21:09 GMT
I can't watch anything not in the original ratio. I watch 4:3 pillar boxed and cinema ratios in letterbox. Though I don't go as far as some and watch old television on CRT. TOTP would look better on an old CRT than any modern day LED or plasma. The contrast ratio is superior. Maybe - I have a pretty good LCD where I have manually adjusted the black levels etc -- I do have a large Sony CRT out the back (primarily used for retro light-gun video games :-) ). I do 'get' it - watching on a CRT - it's just - I prefer my old stuff on the big screen in my lounge room. Properly upscaled but in the correct ratio.
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Post by richardwoods on Dec 22, 2013 9:06:40 GMT
Just to stick my oar in, CRT in terms of quality is superior in almost all ways to LCD, Plasma is still the only way to get CRT comparable images on to a big screen and also gets around tube depth issues on 16/9 ratio tubes. Must admit I was very impressed with Apple TVs presentation of Web and Enemy in the correct ratio, looked good on the Plasma (and in 405 lines on the GEC, heh, heh, but that's just me being eccentric I guess).
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Post by nicadare on Dec 22, 2013 10:50:55 GMT
I'm afraid plasma TVs are a dead duck in the water. OLED 4K+ resolution is the future of televisions, expensive today but in a couple of years will cost a pittance, you'll have Sainsbury's or Tesco's delivering 'em with your groceries.
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Post by richardwoods on Dec 22, 2013 11:16:18 GMT
Sadly yes, I know, in addition the environmental lobby hates Plasmas too primarily because of the power consumption issues. Personally I don't like picture on LCD TV, though it will be interesting to see 4k HD as and when. It's VHS vs Betamax all over again, quality always seems to be a secondary issue. Oh & when I am talking about quality I am talking about picture "watchability", the Plasma vs LCD argument is rather like Valve Amps vs Transistor ones, you can produce reams of data that says otherwise, but in pure musicality terms a decent valve amp wins hands down every time.
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Post by Steven Flavell on Dec 23, 2013 6:32:14 GMT
I am happy they are going ahead with more repeats of TOTP. It gives me hope that they might carry on into the 1980's which is the era I am most interested in. On the downside though the situation around JS and DLT, and possibly John Peel, means most of Culture Club's episodes wont be seen.
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 24, 2013 21:10:42 GMT
And while I'm on a roll.... Current TV still uses 4:3 action safe areas when filming in 16:9. Aaarghh. If you don't have a 16:9 tv then - letterbox or buy a new TV (if you can). It's just a stupid limitation on the creative process. End of rant. the 4:3 HD broadcasts are actually the same as the old BBC HD 16:9 Broadcasts before the 2012 Olympics. 1440x1080, so if the 1920x1080 signal was set to 1440x1080 they would auto to fit the screen. and people who wanted 4:3 could set there set not to fit the image.
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Dec 26, 2013 10:44:34 GMT
Not a chance in hell will there be a 50th celebration or mention. Lowest common denominator press has taken care of that. It might have had more chance of a celebration had it still been a current programme (as per 'Doctor Who'). But as it (in effect) declined to an end in the mid-2000s, with JS prominent in the final show, it is 'uncool' with the wider audience at present.
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Post by scotttelfer on Dec 31, 2013 21:34:38 GMT
just slightly off topic here ,but why the heck are the bbc not doing anything to celebrate what would have been 50 years of totp in jan,i know theres been scandal from one of the djs this year ,but totp was about the music of the day ,and of course the various dance troupes ,Not about the presenters who were given a quick 10 seconds to introduce the next act ,i think its thouroughly disgusting that the 50th year since the show started is going to be ignored by the bbc.
It is terrible, but at the end of the day the BBC is terrified and I can't blame them. It is saying something that in everything I've seen the only thing even close to an acknowledgment of the anniversary is a joking comment about the fact that after nearly fifty years the audience still can't dance.
After the various scandals it's a miracle they've still got their two episodes (then again I can say for a fact Fearne Cotton and Reggie Yates weren't up to anything in the 70s) and when the show is rarely on the air they won't have a choice but to devote it to current music rather than the history of the show. However, why BBC Two or BBC Four can't do anything is another matter.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Jan 1, 2014 11:05:27 GMT
I have no idea why anyone would want to see the picture in anything other than its original resolution : as to black bars at the side, I don't notice them after a few seconds, as I prefer to look at what IS on the screen rather than what isn't! Its really an old wives tale that Pan's People look fat and parts of the picture go missing. But each to his own,I only ask for democracy in that people can choose to see the old 4:3s how they want, and not someone in control switching the signal so that you are forced to watch it in 4:3 with deathly black bars down the side LOL.
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Post by Marie Griffiths on Jan 4, 2014 19:13:26 GMT
The documentary had a mock up of the ITV strike onscreen message. Is the original missing?
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Post by RossL on Jan 5, 2014 20:58:11 GMT
Do we know when the weekly shows start on BBC 4 yet?
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Post by RossL on Jan 5, 2014 23:36:37 GMT
Ah never mind - found it on the Sky planner - Friday 0100 There may be an earlier one, but I prefer the late night veriosn
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Post by Jeff Leach on Jan 6, 2014 2:49:28 GMT
The "Big hits" compilation was badly cropped and some of the clips looked very blurry as a result
I've mentioned it before there seems a drop off in picture quality from the earlier editions - the change from 2" to 1" perhaps ?
Still great to see the repeats continuing - though the Arte an Eins Festival shows seem better transmissions
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