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Post by hankloebster on Dec 26, 2013 6:37:10 GMT
For those of you who bothered to watch the Christmas special, there's some priestess character with make-up across her eyes which more than slightly resembles ........ 16mm film!!! Please say if this was a joke post.... where's Paul McDermott's emoticons when you need him! Wondering when the "hidden clue in Xmas special" posts would start. Did you or did you not see the Christmas special? The eye make-up for the priestess did, indeed, resemble 16mm film. No joke!!!
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Post by mattplace on Dec 26, 2013 7:51:09 GMT
Please say if this was a joke post.... where's Paul McDermott's emoticons when you need him! Wondering when the "hidden clue in Xmas special" posts would start. Did you or did you not see the Christmas special? The eye make-up for the priestess did, indeed, resemble 16mm film. No joke!!! Yes i did and i can't see what you are seeing.... Or is it in the same way that i resemble Brad Pitt when he was young and handsome... as in Not resembling it at all?
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Post by mattplace on Dec 26, 2013 8:26:33 GMT
Please say if this was a joke post.... where's Paul McDermott's emoticons when you need him! Wondering when the "hidden clue in Xmas special" posts would start. Did you or did you not see the Christmas special? The eye make-up for the priestess did, indeed, resemble 16mm film. No joke!!! So by your "logic" can i assume that as the Dr named the Cyberhead "Handles" and in Japan the steering "Wheel" of a car is called the "Handle" means that The Wheel is Space has been located in Japan?... Or by Mysterious Japanese Episode Hunters?... Can you see why i asked if your original post was a joke?...
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Post by hankloebster on Dec 26, 2013 11:03:24 GMT
Did you or did you not see the Christmas special? The eye make-up for the priestess did, indeed, resemble 16mm film. No joke!!! Yes i did and i can't see what you are seeing.... Or is it in the same way that i resemble Brad Pitt when he was young and handsome... as in Not resembling it at all? If somebody posts a screen-capture of the priestess, especially from a side view (wherein the holes/spokes in the "film" are obviously staring viewers in the face), I daresay you're going to be made to look rather blind. Also, that character in particular had some lines (I'll have to re-watch it) to the effect of having been dead and then brought back to life. Somebody in the production crew is having a laugh, that's for sure.......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 13:07:20 GMT
It's Makr Your Mind Up Time ...
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Post by mattplace on Dec 26, 2013 14:17:33 GMT
Yes i did and i can't see what you are seeing.... Or is it in the same way that i resemble Brad Pitt when he was young and handsome... as in Not resembling it at all? If somebody posts a screen-capture of the priestess, especially from a side view (wherein the holes/spokes in the "film" are obviously staring viewers in the face), I daresay you're going to be made to look rather blind. Also, that character in particular had some lines (I'll have to re-watch it) to the effect of having been dead and then brought back to life. Somebody in the production crew is having a laugh, that's for sure....... OOOO dots.... wow.. colour me underwhelmed.. If its a "film" reference wouldn't "dots" be on both sides of her secret messag.. sorry eye makeup? I'm not in the production crew but i am laughing at your deductive reasoning..
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Post by edhipkiss on Dec 26, 2013 14:18:59 GMT
Oh for goodness sake - are we really arguing over this? Yes, it looked like film, no it's not a veiled reference to more missing episodes being found. End of conversation.
NEXT!
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Post by mattplace on Dec 26, 2013 14:24:42 GMT
Oh for goodness sake - are we really arguing over this? Yes, it looked like film, no it's not a veiled reference to more missing episodes being found. End of conversation. NEXT! I'm not arguing, as there is no point, people will see what they want to see and will simply read stuff into a scene, sentence, eye makeup.. that simply is not there. I just think its funny how quickly after the airing before the baseless and bizarre hidden message posts started.
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Post by Matthew Kurth on Dec 26, 2013 14:34:56 GMT
Certainly I prefer most New Who to the insipid McCoy era- A note I like McCoy but as he himself observed it was always rushed, never given time or money for proper development. And don't even get me started on the Casio keyboard constant din of synthesizer noise every second of every show - getting a headache thinking about it! To me truly great Who was nonexistent after the first Peter Davison season. And I personally much preferred RTDs era to Moffats. The thing about the McCoy era is how much it swings between extremes. Which has me thinking this morning about how JN-T managed to replicate the circle he set out to break when he took over. I've read a lot of JN-T bashing in the past about how 'oh they put the teaboy from Space Pirates in the producer's chair' but with his association with the show from that point on he got to watch Letts and Hinchcliffe put their stamp on things and then watch Graham Williams get pulled apart between Tom Baker's and a growing ego, the BBC's demand that the show be less violent/intense, and the malaise of stagflation where the same budget just didn't stretch as far anymore. People like to crap on the Williams era in general, but I've always understood it that he was brought in with the edict to change the show but with no explicit instructions as to how. Which puts Williams in the same category as John Wiles as producers who were victims of BBC management. Anyway, so in comes JN-T with a plan and he cleans house. Eric Saward drifts in and wants more action/adventure compared to the more high concept stuff that Chris Bidmead fancied. And suddenly the show is called 'too violent' again and once again the BBC demands that the show take another direction. So the cycle repeats all over again, only this time without a fresh face in the producer's chair everything sort of flails around for a long time. Which makes it all the more sad that the Cartmel era seemed like it was just starting to sort itself out. I could come up with a laundry list of things I would like to have seen done differently but if I could make only one small change, I would give the show 16 episodes instead of 14, so at least it could be 4 x 4 episodes since it was clear that no one in the production staff could really make a 3-parter work (I'm looking especially at you, "Ghost Light"). And it's funny because when RTD left I was so excited to see what Moffat would do given how much I liked his stories and hoped he would reign in some of the RTD excess and borderline fan service. Moff did that, yeah, but his vision for the show has been so far away from what I expected that I'm still mystified by it. TL;DR - Agreed that Season 24 is insipid, but I think Season 26 is not. And I firmly believe that Moffat is a much better writer than producer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 16:25:08 GMT
I agree that Moffat the writer is better than Moffat the producer / head writer.
The show has become solely about itself and it's own mythology again. Yesterday's rambling 60 minutes was typical of where it has drifted of late. No coherent structure, over-jokey, back-story choking up the flow of the drama and the doctor portrayed as a Marvel comics-type super-hero of epic proportions. Also, there was nothing there that the casual viewer could latch on to unless they've been fastidiously taking notes for the last two series! If Capaldi isn't given strong, self-contained, well-structured stories straight away, he won't stay very long and the chance of a potentially great doctor will have been thrown away.
I'd rather Moffat go than Capaldi. He's been there long enough to prove he isn't really up to it.
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Post by Matthew Kurth on Dec 26, 2013 18:15:44 GMT
Last night one of my brothers in law who hasn't seen the show sat down and watched it with me. On the one hand, I'm still not used to watching it on BBCA with commercial breaks, but on the other hand that provided opportunities for him to ask me questions about what was happening, who the Daleks and Time Lords were, and what the Time War was about.
That really drove home to me that for the episode to have made any sense, you had to have seen almost all of Matt Smith's run. That's a pretty tall order and a heavy burden to put on new viewers who may have been drawn in from the 50th hype. I mean, I sort of expected the anniversary episode to be an exercise in fanwank, but not this.
When the show was over, my brother in law asked me if I thought he should have been able to follow everything that happened. I told him no, it moved way too quickly and shoved in way too much stuff. Surprisingly, he said "In that case, I'm willing to give the show another try sometime. Where should I start?"
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Post by Marty Schultz on Dec 27, 2013 3:31:12 GMT
The space between her eyes is exactly 16mm!!!
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Post by mattplace on Dec 27, 2013 3:36:16 GMT
The space between her eyes is exactly 16mm!!! Please please be joking!
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Post by Marty Schultz on Dec 27, 2013 3:46:50 GMT
The space between her eyes is exactly 16mm!!! Please please be joking! Obviously you missed A bow TIE being dropped on the floor. Obviously a reference to a certain company.... ;-)
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Post by mattplace on Dec 27, 2013 3:49:13 GMT
Obviously you missed A bow TIE being dropped on the floor. Obviously a reference to a certain company.... ;-) HAHAHA Ill pay that one, it made me laugh out loud.
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