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Post by George D on Mar 13, 2012 5:43:06 GMT
Im curious if there was stock footage used in the missing Hartnells and Troughtons that could be recovered from other sources?
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 13, 2012 7:35:27 GMT
You mean stock as in the volcano footage from The Dalek Invasion of Earth ep 6 for example?
Possible. Providing you know what to look for.
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Post by Robbie Moubert on Mar 13, 2012 9:11:22 GMT
The viking ship footage in The Time Meddler was tracked down (by Richard Bignell?) and used for the DVD release.
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Post by felixdembinski on Mar 13, 2012 16:34:45 GMT
The stock volcano footage used for the title captions in the story inferno was used in the story enemy of the world according to an andrew pixley archive.
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Post by Richard Marple on Mar 13, 2012 20:57:27 GMT
Some of Concorde footage used in Time-flight was from a British Airways publicity film.
The original clips were used for the DVD remaster.
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Post by George D on Mar 14, 2012 4:32:38 GMT
Your on the right track. Was curious if there was a paper trail anywhere for stock footage used in missing episodes.
As an example, perhaps the stock footage in enemy of the world could classify a few more seconds of footage existing.
Also maybe there was stock footage used for the abominable snowman, etc.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 14, 2012 7:39:59 GMT
Also maybe there was stock footage used for the abominable snowman, etc. Of real Yeti. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Mar 14, 2012 7:59:58 GMT
Was curious if there was a paper trail anywhere for stock footage used in missing episodes. Stock footage is often referenced on the original PasB forms that are available on the BBC website. The problem is that there was no standard way to document the information, so for some the detail is good, for others, virtually non-existent. That said, even when it *is* good, for a missing episode you have no real idea what *part* of the footage was used, so you're still pretty much in the dark. The PasB's for Enemy of the World show that four feet of material was hired from Pinewood for Episode 1. And that's it, no other details. Fortunately, we have the footage anyway as it's also used in The Daemons No, none in that story. |
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Post by Richard Marple on Mar 14, 2012 12:44:00 GMT
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As an example, perhaps the stock footage in enemy of the world could classify a few more seconds of footage existing.
The PasB's for Enemy of the World show that four feet of material was hired from Pinewood for Episode 1. And that's it, no other details. Fortunately, we have the footage anyway as it's also used in The Daemons
IIRC this the footage of a helicoper crashing, which was shot for From Russia With Love.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Mar 14, 2012 13:13:19 GMT
IIRC this the footage of a helicoper crashing, which was shot for From Russia With Love. Yes, it's for the helicopter explosion sequence - Astrid's in Enemy #1 and Girton's in Daemons #3. It's assumed that the footage was connected with From Russia With Love. It's nothing that appears in the actual film, but it's through that it might be alternative and unused model footage. |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 14, 2012 20:06:09 GMT
That said, even when it *is* good, for a missing episode you have no real idea what *part* of the footage was used, so you're still pretty much in the dark. Unless you had a rough guide like a Tele-Snap shot of it. But duration wise it would be hard to guess (unless the sound gave it away). |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Mar 14, 2012 23:40:07 GMT
The PasB for Enemy of the World ep 1, has the footage marked as Pinewood 4' Sound 35mm
However, on the PasB for The Daemons ep 3, it's recorded as Movietone 1' Sound 35mm (Helicopter explosion)
Why the difference, if it's the same footage? Did Pinewood sell its stock footage holdings to Movietone, or is Movietone an affiliate of Pinewood?
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Post by Rob Moss on Mar 15, 2012 0:22:01 GMT
That said, even when it *is* good, for a missing episode you have no real idea what *part* of the footage was used, so you're still pretty much in the dark. Unless you had a rough guide like a Tele-Snap shot of it. But duration wise it would be hard to guess (unless the sound gave it away). Even if you had a telesnap, you wouldn't know whereabouts in the clip it came from. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Mar 15, 2012 9:23:40 GMT
Why the difference, if it's the same footage? Did Pinewood sell its stock footage holdings to Movietone, or is Movietone an affiliate of Pinewood? Pinewood Studio is basically a huge film-making industrial estate, and is a base to lots of different companies. I would assume that the Movietone library was based there at the time, so citing Movietone or Pinewood would both have been accurate. |
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Post by Richard Tipple on Mar 15, 2012 9:48:17 GMT
Unless you had a rough guide like a Tele-Snap shot of it. But duration wise it would be hard to guess (unless the sound gave it away). Even if you had a telesnap, you wouldn't know whereabouts in the clip it came from. If the stock footage had sound, which made it into the final programme, then I'd imagine you would be able to sync it up and have a fairly accurate punt! |
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