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Post by Laurence Piper on Oct 17, 2004 10:32:20 GMT
You make a lot of assumptions in your posting, Louis - and take a lot of words to do it too. Don't think others don't have views on all this though it's just that they long ago left us to argue it out on our own! You want to move on? Why send such a long, repetitive post then?
A lot of the stuff you say doesn't warrant comment as it retreads old ground (but just gets more personal and bitchy, your "trademark", after all). Nothing you've said here has made me think i'm on the wrong track or warrants me changing my mind either.
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Post by lfbarfe on Oct 17, 2004 12:26:12 GMT
You make a lot of assumptions in your posting, Louis - Quite reasonable assumptions, I'd say, on the basis of the available evidence. Why? Because you replied to the thread after I'd suggested we take it to email. My diagnosis is that you're suffering from lastworditis. Bitchy? I've barely got started, sunshine. Seriously, this strikes me as a bit of a copout. Usually I say that something's beneath contempt when I can't think of a good answer. Quelle surprise. I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just trying to highlight how hypocritical you are and how paranoid you seem.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Oct 17, 2004 12:44:21 GMT
Well, that makes two of us then, most definitely!
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Post by Andrew Doherty on Oct 17, 2004 12:51:11 GMT
It is to be noted that a discussion on the topic in question has brought very little of value to this forum. I have striven to be positive about matters in previous threads only have to my contribution diverted by a certain Mr Gareth R into the realm of class, race and gender. This, and other items of an equally irrelevant and unproductive nature, probably accounts for the atmosphere of negativity, which seems to pervade this and some other threads.
So, let me add a positive tone to this thread (though not necessarily on topic) by stating that there is sure to be some good news on the missing television front. This years “Missing, Believed Wiped” (I believe to take place on December 4th) should have some interesting items. I have been informed that the ATV series “ Thriller” is now to be found on DVD (the first series). Also, a DVD of early (surviving) BBC television Tony Hancock shows has just come onto the market.
On topic, the search for missing programmes over the past two decades, by contacting overseas stations, has proven to be a remarkable success.
The "Missing, Believed Wiped" event has shown some of the excellent results of this endeavour, and programmes placed on video and DVD, which were a direct result of discoveries in overseas stations.
Yours on a positive and relevant note,
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Post by lfbarfe on Oct 17, 2004 13:24:07 GMT
Well, that makes two of us then, most definitely! I'm perfectly capable of hypocrisy, but I'm not paranoid. I don't see why anyone would want to persecute me.
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Post by lfbarfe on Oct 17, 2004 13:33:20 GMT
Also, a DVD of early (surviving) BBC television Tony Hancock shows has just come onto the market. Indeed, and it includes 2 episodes previously blocked by Roger Hancock, TH's brother and agent. Hopefully this means that RH is also mellowing on the subject of the ATV series, which was also blocked from repeat by him. Indeed, and I'm sure there is more out there. I don't know how those responsible for the remarkable successes do it, but I suspect that spending ages trawling schedules and listings for overseas stations to find out who broadcast what when could well be the starting point.
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Post by CliveUK on Oct 17, 2004 13:37:36 GMT
Indeed, and it includes 2 episodes previously blocked by Roger Hancock, TH's brother and agent. Hopefully this means that RH is also mellowing on the subject of the ATV series, which was also blocked from repeat by him. That is interesting, do you know which two episodes this is ? Any chance it may be the 'Robin Hood' episode repeated once around 10 years ago but not been seen since due to some 'rights issues' I would buy the DVD purely for this episode.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Oct 17, 2004 13:40:14 GMT
[quote author=Andrew Doherty This years “Missing, Believed Wiped” (I believe to take place on December 4th) should have some interesting items. [/quote]
I'll be there, Andrew. An event I always look forward to and support as much as I can. Hopefully there'll be a few surprises as well, which is how I like it. If anyone wants to chat in the bar afterwards, that would be good.
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Post by john g on Oct 17, 2004 13:54:10 GMT
meanwhile back at the ranch.
were the supposed sightings of 'ace of wands' TRs in Canada ever investigated?
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Post by lfbarfe on Oct 17, 2004 14:19:38 GMT
I'll be there, Andrew. An event I always look forward to and support as much as I can. Hopefully there'll be a few surprises as well, which is how I like it. If anyone wants to chat in the bar afterwards, that would be good. I'll be there too. And to prove that there are no hard feelings, I will bound over to Laurence and give him a big wet kiss.
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Post by lfbarfe on Oct 17, 2004 14:25:22 GMT
That is interesting, do you know which two episodes this is ? Any chance it may be the 'Robin Hood' episode repeated once around 10 years ago but not been seen since due to some 'rights issues' I would buy the DVD purely for this episode. Yep. There's an Airfield at the End of my Garden and Hancock's 43 Minutes: the East Cheam Repertory Company. I don't think that either had been shown since their original transmissions in 1957. Airfield was problematic because parts of the set, which had been designed to collapse, did so several pages of script early. 43 Mins is a send-up of a variety show rather than a sitcom, and I gather that Roger Hancock didn't think it was very good. Of course it isn't. It's meant to be a shoddily-produced variety show, that's the joke. Viewed on that level, it's very very funny indeed. As someone who spent far too much time on his summer holidays watching shoddy variety shows on various seaside piers, I find it joyous. The DVD is well worth the shekels, and buying it gives BBC Worldwide no excuse not to carry on with all of the other surviving episodes, including Ericson the Viking (which I think is the 'Robin Hood' one you mean), which was repeated over Christmas 1991.
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Post by CliveUK on Oct 17, 2004 14:56:38 GMT
Thanks Louis, it was indeed 'Eriksson The Viking' I was thinking of and I too hope that BBC Worldwide manage to negotiate the rights to release it on a future DVD. It is not only the fact that episodes are missing which stops them seeing the light of day, of course.
My order has gone on for 'Hancocks Half Hour - Vol 1' and I wait with anticipation !
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Post by Andy Henderson on Oct 17, 2004 16:52:24 GMT
If you listen carefully in 'Airfield', Dick Emery almost (just almost) corpses. It's the bit after he kicks over the furniture. You can hear him stiffle a very infectious wheezy laugh.
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Post by William on Oct 17, 2004 20:47:02 GMT
Also, a DVD of early (surviving) BBC television Tony Hancock shows has just come onto the market. i wish they'd released some unsurviving episodes instead. bastards!
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Post by lfbarfe on Oct 17, 2004 21:02:02 GMT
i wish they'd released some unsurviving episodes instead. the good-for-nothing layabouts. It would be interesting to see some of the 1st series HHH shows, as some have compared the earliest surviving Half Hours unfavourably with the later, polished pre-recorded shows. However, on the basis of this DVD, I think that the surviving series 2 and 3 material stands up really well. 'The Lawyer: Crown vs James, S' was shown in the 1986 BBC1 repeat run and I remember consulting Wilmut (Which I had out on semi-permanent loan from Epsom Library - apologies to anyone who might have been trying to borrow it. I've since bought a copy, and no Hancock-loving home should be without one) at the time and being astonished to discover that it was one of the early live ones. Unfortunately, I really do think those are lost forever, simply because they weren't recorded in the first place. The Alpine Holiday was only telerecorded for internal purposes - there was no real idea of selling them abroad or exploiting them in any other way until series 5 in 1959.
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