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Post by Andy Smith on Oct 7, 2008 18:41:54 GMT
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Post by Joe Haynes on Oct 7, 2008 22:39:03 GMT
Hopefully someone is bidding on it from here. Chances are there could be something good on the tapes if they play properly
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Post by Adrian Gregg on Oct 8, 2008 3:45:21 GMT
looks like C***M won it.. mist be as keen as mustard.. could be a colour pertwee or two.. but i dout it.. with titles such as batalfield and the daleks there are from a late 80's run. and the blanks themselvs give that away to a large degree.. hope if c***m read's this he is not disappointed..
just remember to ask me first.. a bit of a walking pedia when it comes to this stuff..
holoy betamax batman the guy paied 100$ US to have em shipped to the UK.. bloody el.. that 3 weeks wages for me
C***M is buying an alful lot of open reel tapes, 16mm films, old cassetes and related stuff. anyone know him (he is spending a truckload. is he "lloking" for somthing?)
rdmeenach ok that's the winner ebay name.. whats all this C**M buisness then?
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Post by Steven Sigel on Oct 8, 2008 4:05:11 GMT
rdmeenach is our own Lance M. I'm sure he'll let us know what's on the tapes...
However, based on the look of the tape boxes, these look like 1980s tapes and therefore are unlikely to have anything besides PBS airing of the existing episodes on them...
Lance is in the USA, so he didn't have to pay to ship them to the UK.
The C**M nonsense is a new ebay "feature" which hides the real ids of all bidders while the auction is running. They show the id of the winner at the end, but that's it...
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Post by Adrian Gregg on Oct 8, 2008 4:28:51 GMT
Ok ok thanks for that info..
and yeah, lance should let us know before filling his house with pointless tapes.. !!! ! ( ok he might be a BIG Dr who fan so That's be ok) !!
there are a LOT of ppl here that date stuff at the drop of a hat..
but who knows.. if they guy knows about dr who (the seller) its poss he knew about the missing colour etc..
but then again it could be a tresure trove of Conitunity and Idents ect ect.. I would have got em just for that!
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Post by LanceM on Oct 8, 2008 7:15:55 GMT
Hello Again,
Yeah, thought seemed like a good deal for so many recordings, even if they turn out to be nothing of interest, still could yield some interesting continuity. As well, as saving in costs by posting them within the US, as well as am assuming these to be NTSC recordings, and would require a NTSC Betamax player for sufficient playback of the tapes. Am needing to get a betamax player at present, but should not pose a large problem, as are still quite easy to find in good shape.
Will definitely let everyone know here once playback has been made, and the exact contents determined.
Cheers, Lance.
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Post by Greg H on Oct 8, 2008 11:40:27 GMT
Good luck Lance, hope theres something of interest on there  |
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Post by Doug Wulf on Oct 9, 2008 1:05:42 GMT
I posted to the RT Forum asking about places where color Pertwee episodes now held only in monochrome might have been broadcast overseas.
The best place to find color copies of most of the episodes in question seems to be the USA and Canada, perhaps via off-air videotaped recordings.
As far as North America goes, given input from Richard Molesworth and others, it seems that Ambassadors of Death and Mind of Evil were broadcast then at least from the following six stations in North America:
WGBH Boston Ch. 2 (VHS) / Ch. 44 (UHF)
WNED Buffalo Ch. 17 (UHF)
WTTW Chicago Ch. 11 (VHF)
CKVU Vancouver Ch. 21 (UHF)
KCET Los Angeles Ch. 28 (UHF)
WHYY Philadelphia Ch. 12 (VHF)
'AoD' was broadcast in Buffalo in 1977 and recorded, but with interference.
'MoE' was perhaps broadcast in Chicago in 1979.
CKVU started broadcasting on Sep. 1, 1976, so its broadcasts of color Pertwee must have been after this time, though CKVU may not have shown 'Ambassadors'
Boston might have been broadcasting these the earliest (c. 1972).
Los Angeles broadcasts were c. 1976.
Betamax was introduced in 1975 and VHS in 1976. It is possible that off-air color recordings from American or Canadian broadcasts exist.
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Post by Steven Sigel on Oct 9, 2008 4:37:26 GMT
The Pertwees were run around 1976-77 on WGBH. By 1978 they were running Tom Baker. I remember seeing the first airing of "Robot". I vaguely recall seeing a few of the Pertwees, but I don't remember which ones. A friend of mine actually did tape a few of the WGBH run, but tapes were so expensive that he just recorded over the tape several times...
I don't think they were available in the US as late as 1979. I suspect that by 78 pretty much everyone had switched to Baker...
It's largely irrelevant in this case since those beta tapes are from the 80s, not the 70s.
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Post by Adrian Gregg on Oct 9, 2008 6:29:54 GMT
It would be great to think someone has those on Beta/VHS . But loads of resherch has been carried out in those areas before.. anyone know if these station still carry Who?. would it be worthwhile Putting an add over the air to ask if people still had 30 year old tapes?
I did just the same thing for a small radio station years ago, looking for "off air's" we had truckloads sent in!!
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Post by Tom Spychalski on Oct 9, 2008 10:07:09 GMT
It would be great to think someone has those on Beta/VHS . But loads of resherch has been carried out in those areas before.. anyone know if these station still carry Who?. would it be worthwhile Putting an add over the air to ask if people still had 30 year old tapes? I did just the same thing for a small radio station years ago, looking for "off air's" we had truckloads sent in!! WTTW was showing Series two of the new Who until recently. they stopped showing Classic Series Who after repeating the Greatest Show in the Galaxy in 1989, and a brief 'Summer of Who' in 1996, around the time of the TV movie. |
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Post by M. Wilson on Oct 9, 2008 11:48:30 GMT
It would be great to think someone has those on Beta/VHS . But loads of resherch has been carried out in those areas before.. anyone know if these station still carry Who?. would it be worthwhile Putting an add over the air to ask if people still had 30 year old tapes? WNED Buffalo Ch. 17 stopped running Doctor Who about 20 years ago. I recall they ran a mix of Pertwee (in black and white and colour) in the early 80s, so they were already re-purchasing the stories from the BBC then. Ironically, they were one of the stations that returned colour copies to England. You would've thought they would get a break on the re-broadcast rights, but they didn't. As a PBS station they had seasonal "pledge breaks" for people to sponsor shows, and were always despairing the cost of Doctor Who as being one of the most expensive shows on the channel. I also taped a lot of this stuff off air to old VHS tapes (recycled about five years ago). Funnily enough, I was very careful with the "pause" and "record" buttons, so I would end up with just Doctor Who... without continuity announcements. Nowadays I wish I'd taped those as well! Doctor Who really took off in Canada and the US in the early 80s, several years after the archives purging. If you're looking for continuity announcements you might get lucky with your ad. As for off-air colour stories of lost episodes (or lost colour episodes) I wouldn't bank on it, but anything's possible. The show's popularity and the widespread use of VCRs were about seven years too late. |
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Post by Tom Spychalski on Oct 9, 2008 12:49:58 GMT
I have some stuff, including a Colin Baker interview I have not seen pop up anywhere else from a subscription drive. Wish I could get it on DVD or a Computer file, but the VHS transfer places by me will not touch copyrighted stuff, and I have neither the cash or the knowledge to do it myself.
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Post by Rob Hutchinson on Oct 9, 2008 14:46:46 GMT
I have some stuff, including a Colin Baker interview I have not seen pop up anywhere else from a subscription drive. Wish I could get it on DVD or a Computer file, but the VHS transfer places by me will not touch copyrighted stuff, and I have neither the cash or the knowledge to do it myself. perhaps if you send it to the restoration team they'll copy it and use it as a dvd extra and then return it to you. if you ask nicely maybe they'll put in on disk for you as well? |
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Post by Tom Spychalski on Oct 9, 2008 20:59:51 GMT
I have some stuff, including a Colin Baker interview I have not seen pop up anywhere else from a subscription drive. Wish I could get it on DVD or a Computer file, but the VHS transfer places by me will not touch copyrighted stuff, and I have neither the cash or the knowledge to do it myself. perhaps if you send it to the restoration team they'll copy it and use it as a dvd extra and then return it to you. if you ask nicely maybe they'll put in on disk for you as well? Perhaps...but it's just a few minute thing, I doubt it has any real value, plus it's attached to Trial with the whole Grade thing and all, for which the extras have been and gone. Still where there's a wind there's a way and I guess a free email hurts nothing in the end. PS: This whole topic actually makes me want to sell off my VHS collection of off air who on E-Bay. I'm in sorta dire financial straits, and besides the one tape I know of with that interview and a few bumpers, they are obsolete as I have all those episodes on other various forms of media, and at this point twenty bucks is twenty bucks.  |
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