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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 6, 2005 22:43:16 GMT
Are you sure 'Edge of Destruction' was sent to Denmark? I thought the traffic records were inconclusive as to what happened to these 2 episodes? Interesting to see the comment on OG from a fan in Copenhagen that both Robot and The Ark in Space were also shown in Denmark at the same time as The Android Invasion. Did we know about these? Richard
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 6, 2005 23:03:22 GMT
No. I've had a check on the paperwork that I have from Enterprises (such as it is!) and that PO Box number doesn't appear at all. Was this on a DW film can? Was there any more to the address at all? Richard It's the film can for Moonbase ep 3 found by Graham in 1989. Here's a link to an image if it: nzdwfc.tetrap.com/archive/tsv22/missingeps.htmlThe BBC tv Enterprise label has PO 20691 types onto it next to the "shield". Jon
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 6, 2005 23:08:15 GMT
John, Are you sure 'Edge of Destruction' was sent to Denmark? I thought the traffic records were inconclusive as to what happened to these 2 episodes? Richard Serial A has the "Denmark" note against it, while Serial B has little ditto marks under it. Serial C is recorded on the other side of the page and also has ditto marks. These are quite small and easily missed, but they are there! So all 13 eps were sent to Denmark. Jon Preddle
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 6, 2005 23:12:39 GMT
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 6, 2005 23:52:05 GMT
Ah! The old Moonbase can! My guess is that this may well be the BBCEnts Purchase Order number that Moonbase was part of rather than referring to a PO Box address. Richard
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 6, 2005 23:59:34 GMT
Ah! The old Moonbase can! My guess is that this may well be the BBCEnts Purchase Order number that Moonbase was part of rather than referring to a PO Box address. Richard Ahhh! A purchase order! Could you elaborate on this please! eg what this would be for, what it means etc Does this mean the film came from London? Jon
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 7, 2005 0:14:08 GMT
Could you elaborate on this please! eg what this would be for, what it means etc Assuming that's what it is... I would guess it would work just like any other purchase order. NZBC decided which stories they wanted to buy from the BBC and they would have to send a purchase order to BBCEnts in order to procure the prints. The BBC might have typed the PO number on the label so they could keep track of the print. Don't know. NZBC's dealings might well have been with BBCEnts office in Sydney, so they might have ordered through them and they passed the details onto London. BBCEnts in London may well have sent a new print out, or they might have just located the whereabouts of the nearest print overseas and asked them to forward it on. It might well be worth getting in contact with Andrew Martin at the BBC F&VT Archive. I'm sure he's seen plenty of Enterprises film cans in his time, so he might have more of an idea if the number is a purchase order. Richard
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Post by Richard Molesworth on Feb 7, 2005 0:36:46 GMT
Interesting to see the comment on OG from a fan in Copenhagen that both Robot and The Ark in Space were also shown in Denmark at the same time as The Android Invasion. Did we know about these? Richard No - this was news to me. But now noted! So in the space of a day, the number of 'Doctor Who' stories we know to have been sent to Denmark has doubled! Woo-hoo! Regards, Richard
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 7, 2005 1:55:24 GMT
It might well be worth getting in contact with Andrew Martin at the BBC F&VT Archive. I'm sure he's seen plenty of Enterprises film cans in his time, so he might have more of an idea if the number is a purchase order. Richard Thanks Richard. Do you have Andrew's email? If so, you can send to my email.... thanks Jon
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Post by LanceM on Feb 7, 2005 5:17:36 GMT
Jon,
Do you think that Andrew Martin might know how to track down some missing episodes if you gave him the PO BOX number? Then if so this would be a major breakthrough in the location of more missing episodes. Any ideas on this subject Jon?
Thanks,Lance.
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Post by Wright Blan on Feb 7, 2005 5:23:28 GMT
Jon, Do you think that Andrew Martin might know how to track down some missing episodes if you gave him the PO BOX number? Then if so this would be a major breakthrough in the location of more missing episodes. Any ideas on this subject Jon? Thanks,Lance. It's probably just a purchase order, like Richard said. Where in the US are you btw?
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Post by LanceM on Feb 7, 2005 5:56:55 GMT
I live in Boise,Idaho. Not much chance of missing episodes turning up around here I am sorry to say.
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Post by henriklarsen on Feb 7, 2005 10:27:58 GMT
According to my sources the transmission dates for the Tom Baker stories on Danish TV are: "Robotten" ("Robot") June 8-29, 1979 "De fremmede" ("The Android Invasion") Oct 16-19, 1979 "Rum-arken" ("The Ark in Space") Jan 1-4, 1980
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 7, 2005 20:53:19 GMT
Thanks Richard. Do you have Andrew's email? If so, you can send to my email.... I mentioned this to Andrew today, and he likewise doesn't think this is a PO Box number. Indeed, he feels that it likely is a purchase order number. As it happens, Andrew had an old Enterprises label for a Dusty Springfield show stuck on the noticeboard by his desk - and it also has a PO number in the same place - PO 20428, so it seems increasingly likely that it may well have been a sequential order number generated by Enterprises when prints were requested. Richard
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Post by Stephen Neve on Feb 8, 2005 10:05:13 GMT
Denmark! Well I must apologise Richard. After trailing through endless Doctor Who magazine Archives and many other sources, I never found any record that Denmark showed Dr Who, don't know how you found it out. Is this a recent discovery. Malta and Gibralter did show Who as well, I stand corrected Richard! My sole aim was to say it was very likely a few prints got out of the Archive and Neil should not stop looking for the Macra Terror just beacuse of a piece of paper, stating the possibility prints may have escaped from NBZ, Macra Terror being one of them. But somehow it divulged from that. Nothing I have said was an error, baring missing out Gibralter and Malta, just looking at all evidence, and keeping an open mind. I think we are going to have to differ on this Richard. You can countinue your research with a clouded mind, I shall be keeping an open mind. Did the BBC ever contact Denmark to see if they still held material.
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