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Post by brianfretwell on Oct 6, 2022 7:57:57 GMT
Having recently seen the cover of a 1950's magazine that offers an article on building your own reel - reel tape recorder I imagine there may have been more around than we thought. How many people kept the tapes and didn't record over them is another matter.
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Post by garycritcher on Oct 13, 2022 16:22:02 GMT
Hi all, this must be my first appearance on the forum in about five years! I'm now living in Nairobi, Kenya, but am really looking forward to hearing this 'new' HHH!
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Post by Stephen Byers on Oct 14, 2022 22:36:34 GMT
I am that Richard Harrison (without the question mark) - and I'm looking forward to people enjoying 'The Marriage Bureau' when its broadcast on the 18th. That documentary (on the 13th) is really nice though. The quality of the Hancock is REALLY good - and (particularly after Keith Wickham's restoration) sounds lovely. One thing that I don't think I saw specified anywhere: was this an off air recording, I mean by someone at home? Were they using discs or were they very early reel to reel owners? You would also enjoy the VHS tapes or DVDs of the t.v. series - if they are still available.
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Post by garycritcher on Oct 19, 2022 7:49:55 GMT
I'm in Nairobi, Kenya so can't listen to it (yet!), but what did everyone think of it?
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Oct 22, 2022 13:16:23 GMT
I understand the sound was very good
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Post by PAUL WOOD on Oct 22, 2022 18:00:55 GMT
I understand the sound was very good The sound was astonishingly good! Apparently the opening minutes of the original reel-to-reel recording were missing so the introductory narration at the beginning is recreated, but other than that you would be hard pressed to identify this as an off-air effort.It's that clear!
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Post by nathangeorge on Oct 26, 2022 15:11:40 GMT
It's probably a solid middle of the road episode of Hancock, at least in terms of the jokes, but it's a really lovely one to have found. Besides a bit of crackling when Hancock is telling his tall tale about who he nearly married, the sound quality was first rate. A great effort from everyone involved in finding and cleaning it up. Hearing it totally made my day and renewed my hopes more treasures are out there to be found. I'm so happy right now.
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Post by Stephen Byers on Oct 31, 2022 1:52:19 GMT
There may be treasures still out there but maybe they need to stay there instead of disappearing into the big black K-hole aka dusty archives.
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Post by Stephen Byers on Oct 31, 2022 2:03:57 GMT
A moot point. If a missing episode were to be found that included some risqué jokes or comments would these be edited out in line with current policies? Recently so many existing / surviving programmes have been butchered or banned by those at the BBC alert to racial prejudice and discrimination never to be heard (or seen) in their entirety again. Luckily there’s active opposition to this butchery in that websites are being set up to host complete versions of such episodes - and that means that any discoveries made will certainly NOT be returned to the BBC or original producers whatever. Certainly it seems that the latest so-termed ‘treasure hunt’ is a ploy to remove from the public domain the last surviving remnants of series or episodes that do contain racist or discriminatory material.
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Post by nathangeorge on Oct 31, 2022 9:22:29 GMT
There may be treasures still out there but maybe they need to stay there instead of disappearing into the big black K-hole aka dusty archives. Isn't a k-hole an 'out of body experience' normally associated with ketamine (a powerful tranquilizer sometimes used for recreational purposes)? Going into into a k-hole fuelled by missing treasures sounds like an enjoyably cathartic experience to me.
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Post by RWels on Oct 31, 2022 11:04:39 GMT
to remove from the public domain the last surviving remnants of series or episodes That isn't actually possible. Come on man, look in the mirror, must you really start begrudging recoveries now?
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Post by Stephen Byers on Oct 31, 2022 13:20:52 GMT
to remove from the public domain the last surviving remnants of series or episodes That isn't actually possible. Come on man, look in the mirror, must you really start begrudging recoveries now? The K-hole was a sarcastic reference to Kal’s archive where deposits are entered but which never seem to be heard or viewed again.
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Post by Stephen Byers on Oct 31, 2022 13:22:38 GMT
And the main issue is to keep new perhaps risqué recoveries from the Beeb’s alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination police.
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Post by RWels on Oct 31, 2022 13:30:10 GMT
And the main issue is to keep new perhaps risqué recoveries from the Beeb’s socially aware police. The risk here is to slide into a realm of distopian fantasy. More archive stuff is available now than ever. Master tapes aren't edited. And no amount of pessimism can change that.
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Post by nathangeorge on Nov 1, 2022 8:14:58 GMT
To be perfectly honest an episode of Monty Pyhton I watched the other day featutred a character called Mrs N***erbater. Now that's a vile archaic term, by virtually any standard, and had limited comedy value, even at the time. I'd have no problem if that were cut, or the name of the character muted because it shows the actors and producers of that episode in a most unedifying light, and would probably be in favour of the cut themselves if they had access to the material. Standards have changed, and if that means a few cuts to stuff so those old attitudes can't be projected onto the next generation? Well, good.
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