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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 19:13:00 GMT
Jon's list and research is first rate. The "experts" I am referring to are the ones who claimed that there "high ranking sources" at the BBC said "restoration" was being performed on massive amounts of episodes by multiple restoration teams due to the sheer amount of work needed to be done. It is those "experts" that I am referring to. The ones who were so wrong and then disappear. I’m sometimes reminded that an “ex” is a has been and a “spurt” is a drip under pressure Going back four years I was fairly convinced that some were mainly interested in driving traffic to their websites. forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/1911242/missing-episodes-is-this-the-list-of-found-episodes-the-preddle-list-analysedRobert, when I mentioned 'The Jon Preddle list' earlier, I was referring to this list, which appeared briefly online before being taken down. It's pre-omnirumour, and for what it's worth, Web and Enemy finds are correct.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 19:18:05 GMT
Correction - the above list is post-omnirumour.
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 28, 2017 20:13:49 GMT
I’m sometimes reminded that an “ex” is a has been and a “spurt” is a drip under pressure Going back four years I was fairly convinced that some were mainly interested in driving traffic to their websites. Puqui didn’t have a website. Neither did I. For what it’s worth - I am sorry for what has happened. There was some truth (EW) but there was also a lot of unverified junk too. At this point, all info is suspect. Best bet is look at the rumors prior to the Bleeding Cool article in June 2013. That why I believe it when a nice R2 BBC DVD pops threw my letter box. I have 2 friends who have worked on Doctor Who Restoration since The War Machines VHS release I can honestly say not one of them every said anything more than Enemy and Web were recovered and they did not leak to me any information BEFORE it was announced on my birthday (lucky me). They did after the fact deny every other rumor to me privately off line and they were correct
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 28, 2017 20:22:29 GMT
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 28, 2017 20:40:34 GMT
Eh?[/quote I had seen that so called list of finds before but I don't remember the list being associated with Jon or BROADCAST in any way what so ever
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 22:09:00 GMT
Eh?[/quote I had seen that so called list of finds before but I don't remember the list being associated with Jon or BROADCAST in any way what so ever According to the article, which is dated 19/11/13, the list "was posted at BroaDWcast", whatever that means?? For what it's worth, this part was proved to be accurate: PP: The Enemy of the World found in Nigeria in its entirety QQ: The Web of Fear found in Nigeria in its entirety and this is at least slightly credible-sounding (!) inasmuch as the DMP episodes were rejected by Australia, and it's speculation-only that Mission to the Unknown was broadcast in Singapore: List of Still Missing Episodes T/A: Mission to the Unknown (1) V: The Daleks’ Master Plan (1,3,4,6,7,8,9,11,12) NN: The Abominable Snowmen (1,3-6)? OO: The Ice Warriors (2,3) SS: The Wheel in Space (2)? What I find hard to believe is the jumping-on-the-bandwagon (post-ominrumour) rumours of "they're all back". Much as we'd all like to see DMP in it's entirety I personally find that ever being a reality hard to accept, due to the fact that copies of the serial simply weren't shipped overseas.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Oct 28, 2017 22:11:25 GMT
I had seen that so called list of finds before but I don't remember the list being associated with Jon or BROADCAST in any way what so ever God, this was from a long time ago (I feel old!). It was such a stupid conversation in hindsight. A list ... or at least something similar to it ... was an unpublished webpage on Broadwcast that the public wasn't supposed to access. Someone, I can't remember who nor do I care to, was clever in finding it and made a big stink about it on the various forums. I believe the list was nothing more than various POSSIBILITIES or some sort of list to keep track of notes. Not anything actually recovered. But of course people back then didn't care about that. I don't know if the link here is the ACTUAL list, but I know what Ed is referring to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 22:16:15 GMT
I had seen that so called list of finds before but I don't remember the list being associated with Jon or BROADCAST in any way what so ever God, this was from a long time ago (I feel old!). It was such a stupid conversation in hindsight. A list ... or at least something similar to it ... was an unpublished webpage on Broadwcast that the public wasn't supposed to access. Someone, I can't remember who nor do I care to, was clever in finding it and made a big stink about it on the various forums. I believe the list was nothing more than various POSSIBILITIES or some sort of list to keep track of notes. Not anything actually recovered. But of course people back then didn't care about that. I don't know if the link here is the ACTUAL list, but I know what Ed is referring to. Cheers for that info, Mark. It's funny to think that Enemy and Web though did end up in the anything actually recovered category. For getting two correct guesses, the person who composed that list should have played the lottery that day.
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 28, 2017 22:24:06 GMT
Well in a perfect world the last place the films were transmitted is where they "should" be. In the case of Enemy and Web they were in Nigeria as were apparently back in the 1980 "The Time Meddler", "The Web Planet" and "The War Machines"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 22:35:29 GMT
So why did the bugger who made up that list of 'finds' have to go and list NN: The Abominable Snowmen (1,3-6) as "still missing"?! Damn them, that story is my favorite - what have they got against it to list it as still lost on a fantasy wish-list!
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Oct 28, 2017 22:42:25 GMT
God, this was from a long time ago (I feel old!). It was such a stupid conversation in hindsight. A list ... or at least something similar to it ... was an unpublished webpage on Broadwcast that the public wasn't supposed to access. Someone, I can't remember who nor do I care to, was clever in finding it and made a big stink about it on the various forums. I believe the list was nothing more than various POSSIBILITIES or some sort of list to keep track of notes. Not anything actually recovered. But of course people back then didn't care about that. I don't know if the link here is the ACTUAL list, but I know what Ed is referring to. Cheers for that info, Mark. It's funny to think that Enemy and Web though did end up in the anything actually recovered category. For getting two correct guesses, the person who composed that list should have played the lottery that day. I'm not that surprised. Nigeria was a known end-location for four serials. I believe even prior to Phil Morris there were questions about Nigeria. If I were to have made a list at one point or another of possible recoveries, Nigeria would've been an educated guess. I remember the month or so leading up to the Web and Enemy reveal there were many rumors. Two strong rumors were "They are from Africa" and "They're Troughton only". I made a verbal guess to my friends that the recovery was from Nigeria. I didn't think it would be any of the other possible countries. Did I have any secret knowledge? No, of course not. I'm a Doctor Who Nerd who spent too much time reading Brad's site and made my guess based off that. Nigeria is not a bad guess at all. Plus, the list isn't on the nose. It said all of Web was recovered: Episode 3 was taken. It said three episodes of Wheel were found: They weren't. It said Snowmen was "possibly" recovered in Nigeria. Well, using the term "possibly" is a CLEAR indication that the list wasn't what people on the forums hoped it was. A list of actual recoveries would be a straightforward list. That's my two cents.
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Post by RWels on Oct 28, 2017 23:49:14 GMT
For getting two correct guesses, the person who composed that list should have played the lottery that day. Two out of 24 claimed serials. That's winning the lottery by buying 20,000 tickets. It's not impressive at all! It always has and always will go against common sense that so many episodes should magically reappear just because this is DW. It never happened to any other missing series and (somewhat depending on by which time period you look) DW is already better off than many others. (Well, actually, "At last the 1948 show" did in fact make a miraculous and almost full recovery, but that is a number of around 9 episodes out of a total of just 13, returned in a period of over 3 decades.)
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 29, 2017 0:37:38 GMT
Now what I was curious about was every one knows about Enemy and Web but were there any other BBC shows that were recovered during Phil's travels that were never reported or even any redundant Who prints, I think I remember something about a poor quality Ambassadors of Death but that's it
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Post by Scot Ferre on Oct 29, 2017 1:58:44 GMT
Now what I was curious about was every one knows about Enemy and Web but were there any other BBC shows that were recovered during Phil's travels that were never reported or even any redundant Who prints, I think I remember something about a poor quality Ambassadors of Death but that's it The two Sky at Night shows.
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 29, 2017 9:18:40 GMT
That's right but I would have figured that there were other shows as well that were made by the BBC
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