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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 26, 2017 23:05:45 GMT
I do believe there are more cans out there for sure. My point is we had "several" people on this board and Gally Base / Outpost Gallifrey claiming that they had there "high ranking sources" telling them what had been recovered and was being restored and what was not missing.
In fact one high ranking person who shall remain nameless claimed we had like 90% of the episodes recovered bar I believe "The Ice Warriors 2 & 3 and "The Invasion" 1 & 4. and I think "The Tenth Planet" #4.
Where have all these people with there "high ranking sources" gone to perhaps there hanging with Darren you know who
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Post by John Wall on Oct 26, 2017 23:31:33 GMT
I do believe there are more cans out there for sure. My point is we had "several" people on this board and Gally Base / Outpost Gallifrey claiming that they had there "high ranking sources" telling them what had been recovered and was being restored and what was not missing. In fact one high ranking person who shall remain nameless claimed we had like 90% of the episodes recovered bar I believe "The Ice Warriors 2 & 3 and "The Invasion" 1 & 4. and I think "The Tenth Planet" #4. Where have all these people with there "high ranking sources" gone to perhaps there hanging with Darren you know who Thanks to the research by the likes of Jon Preddle there is now a pretty good picture - although not 100% - of what was broadcast where and when. There is also a reasonable picture - but less complete - of how many prints there were and how they were shipped around. From these, accepting their limitations, things - such as various rumours - can be assessed - and what becomes quickly clear is that claims of large numbers of episodes being found are non-starters as those mentioned were never together.
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 27, 2017 0:05:45 GMT
A good point. I was familiar with Jon's work before the Omni rumor got out of control and his research was one of the reasons I never believed in mass returns all at once. Besides if we had that many film cans turning up we would no doubt have found films of other BBC shows and duplicates of stuff already held but no the "experts" out there had "had" there "highly placed sources". I just ask where have those "experts" in the know gone now Still I am a firm believer that film cans can and will continue to turn up in the most unexpected places. We just had a bunch of non Doctor Who recoveries announced by Kaleidoscope a few days ago
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 7:32:11 GMT
A good point. I was familiar with Jon's work before the Omni rumor got out of control and his research was one of the reasons I never believed in mass returns all at once. Besides if we had that many film cans turning up we would no doubt have found films of other BBC shows and duplicates of stuff already held but no the "experts" out there had "had" there "highly placed sources". I just ask where have those "experts" in the know gone now Still I am a firm believer that film cans can and will continue to turn up in the most unexpected places. We just had a bunch of non Doctor Who recoveries announced by Kaleidoscope a few days ago So what do you think about 'The Jon Preddle list', Robert? It accurately predicted the location of the film cans of Enemy and Web, after all!
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Post by John Wall on Oct 27, 2017 10:36:08 GMT
I think it was known for a long time that prints of Enemy and Web ended up in Nigeria - just as prints of other stories ended up in various places. However, in lots of places the prints were either destroyed or returned to be destroyed. The difference with Enemy and Web is that the prints had to be shipped to Jos for their final broadcast and PM tracked them down.
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 27, 2017 17:16:12 GMT
Jon's list and research is first rate. The "experts" I am referring to are the ones who claimed that there "high ranking sources" at the BBC said "restoration" was being performed on massive amounts of episodes by multiple restoration teams due to the sheer amount of work needed to be done. It is those "experts" that I am referring to. The ones who were so wrong and then disappear.
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Post by John Wall on Oct 27, 2017 21:08:43 GMT
Jon's list and research is first rate. The "experts" I am referring to are the ones who claimed that there "high ranking sources" at the BBC said "restoration" was being performed on massive amounts of episodes by multiple restoration teams due to the sheer amount of work needed to be done. It is those "experts" that I am referring to. The ones who were so wrong and then disappear. I’m sometimes reminded that an “ex” is a has been and a “spurt” is a drip under pressure Going back four years I was fairly convinced that some were mainly interested in driving traffic to their websites.
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 27, 2017 21:48:34 GMT
That was my point exactly, a few trying so called hoaksters taking advantage of the situation to drive traffic to some of those now forgotten so called "News" sites that will remain name less
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Post by John Wall on Oct 27, 2017 21:54:18 GMT
That was my point exactly, a few trying so called hoaksters taking advantage of the situation to drive traffic to some of those now forgotten so called "News" sites that will remain name less Looks like Fake News was created long before Donald Trump and The Canary.
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Post by Robert Lia on Oct 27, 2017 22:11:28 GMT
I believe one was called Doctor Who Online back then I remember that it vanished one day a few years ago and I got a "page not available" when ever I tried to go back to it
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Post by Greg H on Oct 27, 2017 23:41:05 GMT
That was my point exactly, a few trying so called hoaksters taking advantage of the situation to drive traffic to some of those now forgotten so called "News" sites that will remain name less Looks like Fake News was created long before Donald Trump and The Canary. I would feel massively remiss if I didn't point out that thecanary.co is not a fake news site and can prove all that they post and in fact they are a very accurate news service, in distinct contrast with much of the mainstream papers such as the daily (race hate) mail, and the torygraph etc. The spectator is so biased it is run by George Osborne these days (failed tory economist who did a terrible job). Have you ever looked at who owns the mainstream media and why they publish the stories they do? A hint for the curious; in the UK it is 5 people who are all billionaire tax dodgers. I wonder why they enable the politicians who are pro tax dodging with their made up stories to skew people's views of what is actually happening. Any guesses?
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Post by John Wall on Oct 28, 2017 10:07:43 GMT
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Oct 28, 2017 14:22:05 GMT
Whilst I was not gullible enought to believe in the so called omnirumour it was clear something had been found and an announcement was anticipated four years ago. Strangely perhaps I had mixed feeling that day when it was official Web and Enemy were confirmed as recovered and in line for DVD release. I had rather hoped for more episodes although, and I know others here will strongly disagree, I was not overconcerned at Web 3s omission. Having lived iwth the first part for so many years five out of six from this story is pretty damn good.
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Post by Scot Ferre on Oct 28, 2017 14:42:44 GMT
Jon's list and research is first rate. The "experts" I am referring to are the ones who claimed that there "high ranking sources" at the BBC said "restoration" was being performed on massive amounts of episodes by multiple restoration teams due to the sheer amount of work needed to be done. It is those "experts" that I am referring to. The ones who were so wrong and then disappear. I’m sometimes reminded that an “ex” is a has been and a “spurt” is a drip under pressure Going back four years I was fairly convinced that some were mainly interested in driving traffic to their websites. Puqui didn’t have a website. Neither did I. For what it’s worth - I am sorry for what has happened. There was some truth (EW) but there was also a lot of unverified junk too. At this point, all info is suspect. Best bet is look at the rumors prior to the Bleeding Cool article in June 2013.
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Post by John Wall on Oct 28, 2017 16:38:53 GMT
DWO got their fingers very badly burnt regarding Web some years ago and then Power was supposed to be back.
I’d be inclined to ignore all rumours until there is confirmation from, say, the RT.
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