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Post by richardwoods on Jun 17, 2015 17:10:21 GMT
Coming up private now unfortunately.
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Post by John Green on Jun 17, 2015 22:43:47 GMT
For once,I actually got a move on and watched/listened to it.Very well done,too.
I'm assuming copies are zooming around the webnet.
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Post by brianfretwell on Jun 17, 2015 22:52:21 GMT
Getting "Sorry this video is private" on that link :-( Oops, didn't see there was a second page on this thread.
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Post by Patrick Coles on Jun 18, 2015 11:43:22 GMT
interesting glimpse into the long lost past....
John Lennon used to sometimes 'sing along' to 'Can't Buy Me Love' even tho' Paul of course was the featured solo lead singer on that song (the TV performances were often, tho' not always, mimed in those days, notably on BBC's 'TOTP') - John's singing along looks to be happening here in this rare TOTP footage
I have their 'Ready Steady Go !' performance of 'Can't Buy Me Love' where John is happily 'singing along'(apparently confusing the director & cameraman at the start who quickly switches close up across to Paul)
next up the single 'B' side; 'You Can't Do That' features John playing lead guitar.
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Post by markjhaley on Jun 18, 2015 14:29:14 GMT
I suspect this second overdubbed version is just a copy of the first one. Having seen both, neither have got the track in sync. If you watch Ringo in close up around the 29 second mark you'll see he's hitting the snare drum on the 'on beat' (1 & 3) when it should be on the 'off beat' (2 & 4).
Another thought. Only 30 seconds or so of the 'Ticket To Ride' appearance survived (courtesy of Dr Who). I wonder if the director included shots of the studio audience dancing to that as well..?
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Post by John Green on Jun 18, 2015 14:32:55 GMT
Surprisingly,I spotted the snare-drum unsynch.(It could almost act as a clapperboard for dubbing).Good overall,though.
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Post by richardwoods on Jun 18, 2015 19:41:00 GMT
Cheers Darren. Good to see the dubbed version. Does anyone know if the TOTP audio exists? I MAY have a copy of the TOTP audio for The Wind Cries for Mary silent TOTP footage in the returned pile of my old reel to reel tapes. It certainly used to be there before I gave them to my friend in 1997. The tape was returned for sure, it's just a case of getting around to trying to play it as soon as I can.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 19, 2015 7:52:26 GMT
The audio used for the tracks should be the mono singles.
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Post by Dave Woods on Jun 19, 2015 19:24:00 GMT
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Post by richardwoods on Jun 19, 2015 20:20:11 GMT
Nice one Dave, much more in synch.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 19, 2015 20:59:47 GMT
This has gone a bit viral in the Beatles fan world....
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Post by markjhaley on Jun 19, 2015 21:48:01 GMT
Yep, good effort Dave.
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Post by Dave Woods on Jun 22, 2015 18:31:42 GMT
Just a technical question... During the guitar break they cut to the audience dancing but you can see the clip continuing, apparently being shown at quite some size on the back wall. Unfortunately quite a lot of this is cropped off as it's at the top of the screen, but you can see the guitars and you can see that the cutting is in time to the music. How was this done? Was the Beatles clip on film rather than video? (In which case....) Was it shot on video and transferred to film? Is there some video trickery going on? Or did the BBC have a video projector in 1964? I've asked about this clip before: here's Sheila on French TV in 1963-4, long before she got her B. Devotion, performing in front of a fairly large screen that's clearly showing the output of the camera we're looking through. I say fairly large but this would be massive for an early sixties CRT. What's the technology here? www.youtube.com/watch?v=icU0yA9MUEU
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Post by Dan S on Jun 22, 2015 19:19:51 GMT
It looks like she's standing *very* close to a CRT, so it's not as large as you think - still quite large for 1963/64 but not impossible.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 23, 2015 7:47:28 GMT
Just a quick comment.
I am leaving the attempt at recovering these clips to a contact I speak to regularly who has specialist expertise above mine.
Assuredly, he will do his utmost to make sure this historic footage is copied, restored and preserved.
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