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Post by robchapman on Jul 4, 2015 10:11:02 GMT
I noticed Roger Daltreys comment about the Village People was edit out of last nights repeat... yes I noticed this too, and yet he still managed to come across as a complete knob anyway I thought.
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Post by Kev Hunter on Jul 4, 2015 10:57:02 GMT
At least Daltrey was honest about disco music ("I can't stand it.. it's terrible") whereas most guest DJs/presenters appeared to give the impression that they were into what ever was coming up next, i.e. Steve Wright introducing the Cockney Rejects and UK Subs a few weeks prior to this edition, or Tony Blackburn introducing just about any punk / new wave / rock act. Regarding Daltrey's "Watch your backs" comment, it's hard to understand the BBC's mentality most of the time - why cut this throwaway line when the previous year Quantum Jump's performance of 'The Lone Ranger' still had lyrics "Maybe masked man he a poofter, try it on with surly Tonto"..? left intact.
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Post by robchapman on Jul 4, 2015 11:58:21 GMT
Just what we needed in 1980. Someone being 'honest' about Disco. Yeah, I remember. Disco sucks. Lets hire a huge stadium and burn black peoples records. It wasn't just that. It was the whole lairy phwoar I'd give her one undertone and the - patently insincere I thought - I'm dead into the Clash me.
I've interviewed Daltry and he came across as a genuinely likeable sincere bloke. I also know someone whose been in one of his backing bands and says he's one of the hardest working guys in showbiz. So no axe to grind there.
But the bloke who appeared on my TV screen last night? Knob.
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Post by Kev Hunter on Jul 4, 2015 12:09:13 GMT
Just what we needed in 1980. Someone being 'honest' about Disco. Yeah, I remember. Disco sucks. Lets hire a huge stadium and burn black peoples records. It wasn't just that. It was the whole lairy phwoar I'd give her one undertone and the - patently insincere I thought - I'm dead into the Clash me. I've interviewed Daltry and he came across as a genuinely likeable sincere bloke. I also know someone whose been in one of his backing bands and says he's one of the hardest working guys in showbiz. So no axe to grind there. But the bloke who appeared on my TV screen last night? Knob. "Let's hire a huge stadium and burn black peoples records"... oh come on Rob, you're making a mountain out of a molehill there! It wasn't about race, so don't play that easy card for effect. A lot of disco music was synthetic unimaginative shite, no matter who made it. Yes, Daltrey did come across as some kind of sub-Robin Askwith 'Confessions of..' type character on this occasion, but if TV channels dispensed with every knob who appeared onscreen then there would be few - if any - presenters remaining.
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Post by robchapman on Jul 4, 2015 12:19:38 GMT
"Mountain out of a molehill?" "Race card?" (is that like a draft card?) Have you ever seen any of the more thoughtful documentaries that deal with this whole unsavoury issue. The ones that show people burning records by those well known disco artists Marvin Gaye and Ray Charles.
Disco sucks was of course short for disco sucks dick. Two prejudices for the price of one there, eh?
Backs against the wall boys.
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Post by Kev Hunter on Jul 4, 2015 12:28:36 GMT
Calm down, dear.. this has come a long way from someone saying that they hated disco music on an 80s pop show! It's obviously Sensitive Day on the forum.
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Post by robchapman on Jul 4, 2015 16:20:28 GMT
No dear. ("Dear"? Hmmm) Not being unduly sensitive. ("Sensitive?" hmmm) My original response was to Chris not you, and merely pointing out that the omission of his homophobic comments hardly mattered given that he managed to come over as a clod anyway. You lauded him for his dislike of disco music and then aired your prejudices about synthetic unimaginative shite. I was simply pointing out that in historical context this might not have been the most astute thing Roger Daltrey has ever done.
I'll be mincing around on the Val Doonican thread while crying into my pink carnation if you want me.
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Post by Kev Hunter on Jul 4, 2015 19:14:48 GMT
Rob, Rob, Rob.. I did not 'laud' Roger for his anti-disco comment, I merely said that I thought he was being honest (I don't actually know if he hates disco music or not, and I care even less) - it just made a change not to have a presenter fawning over whatever came on next. I did think, however, that your comment about the sinister side of being anti-disco was taking it a bit far. Slating disco is hardly tantamount to siding with the KKK, is it? And my feelings about 'synthetic unimaginative shite' are not prejudices - I don't like certain bits of music, even within a specific genre. I dislike certain musical styles but they're not prejudices.. if you don't like something that doesn't sound good to your ears then you don't like it, full stop. And besides there are examples of shite in all musical styles.. whatever. There's some great disco and there's also some really rubbish disco, as with great punk, crap punk.. great prog, crap prog, great jazz, crap jazz.. well, you get the idea. (BTW the 'calm down dear' bit had no inference.. I was doing my Michael Winner bit (which, to be fair, probably doesn't come across too well in type.)
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Post by williammcgregor on Jul 4, 2015 20:00:26 GMT
Can I hold your jackets?
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Post by nicadare on Jul 4, 2015 20:03:55 GMT
Can I hold your jackets? LOL
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Post by williammcgregor on Jul 5, 2015 5:59:02 GMT
Unfortunately, I don't have any music papers from 1980, otherwise I could have looked to see if there had been an Roger Daltrey interview around the time of his Top of the Pops appearance to see if it could throw any light on his side of the story?
I do however; have a few of the brilliant "Ultimate Music Guide" by the makers of Uncut magazine about the WHO so I'll trawl through them to see if anything relevant is there?
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Post by nicadare on Jul 5, 2015 9:09:18 GMT
BBC bosses have come in for flak after editing out a “homophobic” comment by Who frontman Roger Daltrey from a 35-year-old edition of Top of the Pops. When originally shown in August 1980, Daltrey uttered: “Watch your backs!” just before a video by The Village People was shown. But on repeats shown on BBC4 it was was edited out. More details here >>>> www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-blasted-airbrushing-history-axing-6002501
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Post by markg on Jul 5, 2015 9:35:47 GMT
Clearly, some people were looking forward to it.
Anyway, why would Roger's love for The Clash be insincere?
His "Legs and co" comment did seem somewhat forced out, mind. Attempting to play the totp game, I'm guessing.
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Jul 11, 2015 8:53:15 GMT
Elton John and Roger Daltrey were un-rehearsed and indifferent towards the show. Had they been told to go on there by their management?
Roger's comments about The Village People have been highlighted, but it was also notable to see Elton dismissive of George Benson's record.
It reminded me of growing up in those years, when I believe there was a mind-set that rock music was definitive to the (UK white suburban) audience. Disco was a 'lesser' genre, imported from the USA or worse still, cheesy Europop.
Elton & Roger were reflecting this train of thought. In the case of Elton, he was in the midst of a commercial slump (i.e. no top 30 hits & no top 10 albums between 1978 and 1982) and it maybe made him disaffected. I don't think he would take that attitude now.
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Post by robchapman on Jul 11, 2015 16:13:23 GMT
Good points Tony...and continuing to stir the pot from last week, interesting to see what the BBC will and won't censor isn't it? Loved Steve Wright's cod Jamaican accent during the chart run down this week. "Bob Marley and De Wailers." Hilarious stuff from a quality broadcaster. And how spiritually uplifting it was to see good christian Cliff plugging his upcoming tour of apartheid South Africa too. Yours dripping with sarcasm....
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