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Post by John Andersen on Nov 1, 2015 19:29:42 GMT
I got really good quality results for Enemy and Web on Apple TV, but bought the DVDs too of course. Apple TV? What is that? I am guessing that isn't something that is sold at the Best Buy.
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Post by Paul McDermott on Nov 2, 2015 1:51:25 GMT
I must say I do like a physical library as well.And video-tape,though lacking the super features of DVD was tactile and un-fussy.Shove it in and it started where you left off.Sometimes I want to scream waiting for the main feature on the DVD to start.And if you press the wrong button on the remote and it goes back to the start again... Of course the worry of non physical media both remote like iTunes and domestic including Tevo and Sky+ is the lack of multiple physical copies in private hands and the worry that we could be entering a period where serious amounts of material could be lost with no back up copies out there. I'm unsure how you watch your media Richard, but for some of us who remember the Alamo there's something to be said for having a local version of whatever digital purchases we've made. Economically, things like Netflix make big productions possible and they seem a pretty good deal for consumers too, but as with music, I'm not yet able to emotionally commit to the model. I find having a local media server for iTunes means I keep a local copy of the bits of all files I've bought from the Store. That way, I can watch stuff on my Apple TV or other iDevice without streaming it from Apple. Most likely you do that, Home Sharing and so forth? I actually bought my 3rd Generation Apple TV that happy day in 2013 when Enemy and Web were made available just about everywhere that way. I couldn't imagine not watching new old Who on the telly, so that was the rationale. May well be a few like me did the same! Caring little for 4K whatnots with a good 1080p telly, the new 4th Generation Apple TV looks like a pretty sweet upgrade, though I'll wait just a bit longer before picking one up. I'd hope that with it supporting things like the new Star Wars Disney Infinity game, we may see the Lego Dimensions title go to it - be nice to have the Lego Doctors on the new model! Actually, given the success of Lego superhero features made for direct market, I wonder if the Beeb may consider a Who one at some point. Get the right kind of funny scribes in, I think it could be pretty enjoyable.
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Post by Paul McDermott on Nov 2, 2015 1:56:52 GMT
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Post by Paul McDermott on Nov 2, 2015 2:19:44 GMT
I must say I do like a physical library as well.And video-tape,though lacking the super features of DVD was tactile and un-fussy.Shove it in and it started where you left off.Sometimes I want to scream waiting for the main feature on the DVD to start.And if you press the wrong button on the remote and it goes back to the start again... My personal hatred is the forcing of unskippable adverts for unrelated material before you get to the menu. Guys, I'm not at the cinema. I bought the Blu-Ray, let me watch it. The last time I endured this, I think there was 15 minutes of me in the kitchen making a cuppa and a snack muttering sundry oaths whilst the telly was muted. Hardly a winner designed to make me want to buy anything sold that way, and actually made me more inclined to buy digital stuff off iTunes rather than risk that again. Time and space matter, and if things are only in SD and there's no extras - I'm willing to bite for digital if the price is right. You buy physical media for decades - books, film, whatever - and you start hankering for a TARDIS. Stick it on a RAID, and your home server has all the files locally backed up and with a redundant copy ready to enjoy via Home Sharing, sans clutter. If I have to budget extra minutes into a viewing session for a quarter hour of junk at the start, I am less inclined to put the disc in the player, or press play! Of course, there's niche stuff only on optical and stuff from decent purveyors of physical media that respect their customers and the material they're selling, like the Beeb and Network, but occasions like the one I mentioned above really make me pause before buying something, even on sale, until a little reading has been done to make sure there's not a bunch of junk at the start.
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Post by Rob Moss on Nov 2, 2015 3:27:59 GMT
I've got no problem with downloads, as long as the following conditions are met: - The bitrate is high enough that the picture and sound quality are equivalent to or better than DVD or blu ray (depending upon SD or HD)
- Interlaced material remains interlaced. I don't want my studio VT scenes "filmised"
I can just about cope with the lack of a sleeve, because it wouldn't affect my viewing experience, and extras are just that. But if you start offering over-compressed, blocky, deinterlaced video files, I would have to question someone's idea of "progress"...
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Post by keithmchugh on Nov 2, 2015 11:13:11 GMT
I've got no problem with downloads, as long as the following conditions are met: - Interlaced material remains interlaced. I don't want my studio VT scenes "filmised"
I think the lack of interlaced video is the biggest problem with all downloads & streaming video. It's the same watching catch-up TV even when viewed on a TV, the most noticable are the credits that judder up the screen. A friend said to me recently "why does it look like they've added a fillm effect?", after he had watched a famous ITV soap on his YouView box for the first time. The UKTV catch up service on YouView is the only one I've seen where the pictures do look like the interlaced video has been kept. I wonder what they do differently to the mainstream channels eg BBC iPlayer, ITV Player etc.
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Post by Rob Moss on Nov 2, 2015 11:26:40 GMT
I've got no problem with downloads, as long as the following conditions are met: - Interlaced material remains interlaced. I don't want my studio VT scenes "filmised"
I think the lack of interlaced video is the biggest problem with all downloads & streaming video. It's the same watching catch-up TV even when viewed on a TV, the most noticable are the credits that judder up the screen. A friend said to me recently "why does it look like they've added a fillm effect?", after he had watched a famous ITV soap on his YouView box for the first time. The UKTV catch up service on YouView is the only one I've seen where the pictures do look like the interlaced video has been kept. I wonder what they do differently to the mainstream channels eg BBC iPlayer, ITV Player etc. When I was with Virgin (in the old days when I lived in a cabled area), the Virgin catch-up service was always faithful to the interlaced source material. That was before iPlayer though, so I don't know whether it still is. On the subject of iPlayer, Mrs Rob and I were watching EastEnders on iPlayer last night. It was bad enough watching the programme itself through film-o-vision, but when the credits rolled, they were quite literally unreadable. The frustrating thing is that it is perfectly possible for them to encode material so that it displays correctly, and it worries me greatly that, even if we do get some decent archive material on the BBC Store when it opens, it will be a cesspit of over-compressed, deinterlaced files, fit only for the YouTube generation, none of whom will be interested in "that old crap". Progress though, eh..?
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Post by RWels on Nov 2, 2015 11:34:36 GMT
How about the anti-piracy clip that you can't skip, fastforward or avoid in any way? That's your reward for actually buying a non-pirated disc...
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Post by Owen Conway on Nov 2, 2015 12:01:31 GMT
How about the anti-piracy clip that you can't skip, fastforward or avoid in any way? That's your reward for actually buying a non-pirated disc... Pfft, they don't know anything. I download cars all the time....into my images folder
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Post by Paul G on Nov 2, 2015 13:40:35 GMT
Yeah I am sure the rest of the DVD is awesome. The joke was in years past "Gargleblasters" was used by the Restoration Team as a joke when some one would ask if (story 9X was going t be released soon as they could not say per contract). It was actually 'Bargblasters'!
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Post by John Green on Nov 2, 2015 15:59:51 GMT
Please.Someone say it's a Hitchhikers reference.
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Post by RWels on Nov 2, 2015 16:14:50 GMT
Please.Someone say it's a Hitchhikers reference. What, with Douglas Adams having been script editor on the program? Surely not!
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Nov 2, 2015 20:08:46 GMT
You wouldn't download a car but these days you could probably make one yourself using a 3D printer...
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Post by John W King on Nov 2, 2015 23:02:38 GMT
I just want to physically buy a DVD copy. In the past I went to Sainsburys or Tescos or Asda. No such luck with this release. I'm in the middle of moving house and haven't easy access to the Internet. Are HMV stocking the DVD?
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Post by Alan Jeffries on Nov 2, 2015 23:38:00 GMT
Can you even find a HMV now?
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