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Post by Rob K on Oct 15, 2014 14:23:23 GMT
Hi all, I've been re-watching and enjoying "All Gas and Gaiters" on DVD and see that two episodes from the final, 1971 run were made in colour but only exist as black-and-white telerecordings. Just wondering whether anyone knows if these have the chroma dots that would enable colour recovery? The episodes are "The Bishop Warms Up" (it's about central heating, in case you were wondering) and "The Bishop Entertains". This series has been discussed on here before but no mention of this question. missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/8129/all-gas-gaiters-brother-left This is a great series and I agree with Laurence Piper it would probably be much better remembered/repeated if more existed. Quite genteel and old-fashioned, but each one is a very well-constructed little farce and the performances are terrific all round. An obvious precursor to series like "Father Ted". "The Bishop Entertains" is a particularly good episode and it would be good to see it in its original colour. Interesting too to read on the above thread an episode was listed at the BFI but couldn't be found - anyone have any more details? Thanks Rob
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Post by RWels on Oct 15, 2014 15:11:58 GMT
Note also that one episode features some of the guest roles from Fawlty Towers' Gourmet Night and of course, the dean's wife is Fawlty's nemesis from Communication Problems, mrs. Alice Richards. Very underrated. The same could be said of "Misleading cases" - that has even more episodes missing in action. Unjustly forgotten. Repeating some general information, it seems that chroma dots are found almost always. But colour restoration is reserved for the absolute A-list stuff. You'll see no colour on The Goodies - Caught in the act for example. A pity, because I think it's every bit as good as AYBS?, only less famous. I think the booklet describes it as a sort of unwanted child that was kept alive only by its good ratings. I gave a copy of the AGAG DVD box to a friend who was considering a career in the clergy. He has since decided not to join. Coincidence?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 15:42:05 GMT
Yes, just to repeat what's already been said, it seems that the number of BBC telerecordings which do NOT have the chroma dots is very very small. Although I don't know for sure, I'd say it's very likely they're present on those AGAG episodes. A great shame though that this wonderful process is not more widely used on the BBC's archive.
It seems that AGAG episode listed in the BFI's holdings could not be found when the DVD release was mooted. This situation has happened with other odd items in the same way too (e.g. a Crossroads episode which could not be located despite being listed by the BFI as a holding with programme details etc.) so it's possible that the episode is misfiled / mislaid and could turn up eventually - hopefully.
Both All Gas And Gaiters and Misleading Cases were funny and underrated series which would be regarded more highly now if more existed of them!
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Post by RWels on Oct 15, 2014 18:56:41 GMT
The AGAG booklet seemd to imply that the series wasn't wanted at the BBC because of internal politics, and only lasted 5 series because it did so well in the ratings that they couldn't justify cancelling it.
It was probably more accessible than Misleading Cases, which I like but can imagine other people don't. Anyway, the 4 episodes of its three series haven't made it to DVD. There's some audio-only on youtube though, that works very well too.
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Post by John Green on Oct 15, 2014 19:26:38 GMT
Alistair Sims had a lot of cachet,remember,as a film star..'All Gas' and 'Oh Brother' were a run of Derek-Nimmo-as-priest comedies that were obviously popular.In the former Robertson Hare got to use his catchphrase "Oh,calamity!" with which older viewers would have been familiar for decades,I believe.My family-mum,dad,and lots of kids-watched all three shows,though I don't recall viewing 'Misleading Cases' very often.
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Post by Peter Bradford on Oct 16, 2014 10:56:17 GMT
I still say 'Oh calamity' on occasion, and I'm not that old! Must have left a distinct impression on me.
Mind you, I still say '... and the next one please' without fail whenever I hear any sort of mechanical 'ting' noise. Reminiscent of the yes/no interlude on Michael Miles' 'Take your pick'.
Anyone else have a little foible like this?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 12:10:09 GMT
Yes, I probably often say "Gordon Bennett" when surprised by something, even though most people around (unless football buffs) wouldn't know what / who that meant nowadays!
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Post by richardwoods on Oct 16, 2014 17:22:51 GMT
Unfortunately I still say "and who's this calling the Golden Shot" when the phone rings. I know, sad isn't it.
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Post by Alan Scott on Oct 17, 2014 20:29:21 GMT
Whenever I hear anyone talking about decorating the house, I immediately think of the dialogue in Steptoe & Sons "Divided We Stand" e.g. "Dark green in chocolate, them's the colours!"
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Post by gregbakun on Oct 20, 2014 18:00:08 GMT
Misleading Cases is truly a forgotten gem. What a wonderful program!
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Post by RWels on Oct 22, 2014 10:07:25 GMT
Well, about Misleading Cases, I happened to see the last of the surviving episodes (at the BFI - spotted dick fiddy on my way out, talking to a camera crew) and "Right of way" wasn't the best of them. It just didn't quite work its usual tricks. The other 3 survivors and the audios are funnier, luckily.
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Post by tombeveridge on Oct 25, 2014 6:24:10 GMT
I still say 'Oh calamity' on occasion, and I'm not that old! Must have left a distinct impression on me. Mind you, I still say '... and the next one please' without fail whenever I hear any sort of mechanical 'ting' noise. Reminiscent of the yes/no interlude on Michael Miles' 'Take your pick'. Anyone else have a little foible like this? For me, it's the old chocolates slogan "Roses grow on you." It's virtually an automatic response to the trigger word "roses." Frightening that a 50-year old ad campaign can still have that amount of control over one's brain.
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Post by ianh on Oct 25, 2014 18:58:49 GMT
I still say 'Oh calamity' on occasion, and I'm not that old! Must have left a distinct impression on me. Mind you, I still say '... and the next one please' without fail whenever I hear any sort of mechanical 'ting' noise. Reminiscent of the yes/no interlude on Michael Miles' 'Take your pick'. Anyone else have a little foible like this? For me, it's the old chocolates slogan "Roses grow on you." It's virtually an automatic response to the trigger word "roses." Frightening that a 50-year old ad campaign can still have that amount of control over one's brain. Whenever I hear the word Nottingham (often, as it's local to me) I think of the 70s 'Tunes' advert and the fellow with the blocked nose ordering his train ticket saying... "Dottig-ab""Where?" "DOTTIG-AB!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 19:37:21 GMT
Peter Cleall (Please Sir), wasn't it? I remember the ad well!
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Post by Pete Morris on Oct 26, 2014 6:45:03 GMT
Anyone else have a little foible like this? When I get a stroke of random good luck, I say "that's 'andy, 'Arry, stick it in the oven"
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