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Post by simonashby on Oct 6, 2018 18:18:29 GMT
Furthermore, Phil Morris was recently quoted as saying that people who are say that the number of missing episodes of Doctor Who will remain at 97 are talking nonsense. Therefore, we might also have optimism that more recovered episodes of Doctor Who can now be revealed. Paul V has confirmed that at least a couple of episodes are known to exist with private collectors, so it could be related to that. Otherwise there is nothing else to go on.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 5, 2018 23:06:11 GMT
Well, unless more were found ( & indeed maybe they have been & I've somehow missed it ) since the DVD boxset was issued quite a few years back, or my memory is particularly bad I seem to recall that from & including series 2 most of the monochrome ones were in pretty poor condition indeed ( though series 1 is in excellent condition ) - I assumed this was because they were mainly sourced from the poor quality domestic recordings made by one of the writers. You're ( Simon Ashby ) saying only one was. If so, those surviving film prints must have been in a bad condition when located. Can't comment on the condition of the episodes, but I am sure that only the 1 b/w episode existed as a home recording. That said, PM found one telerecording so it's possible he found others in better condition too, but he says nothing to that effect. We'll see!
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Post by simonashby on Oct 5, 2018 23:02:13 GMT
I applaud Ed's optimism, we should not shoot down positive vibes - let's face it, we are all gagging for the oxygen of hope - non-WHO recoveries are to be welcomed, at least stones are being lifted - we must keep the candle burning. Optimism is great, but we must remember to temper expectations and approach this thoughtfully and logically. Getting into a frenzy over nothing substantive can lead to major disappointment. That itself should be shot down, but not the optimism that drives it.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 5, 2018 22:36:03 GMT
I've edited my earlier post ( about 3 posts above on the thread ) to give an exact quote of PM's words on tonight's One Show, where he seems to clearly state he's recovered better versions of all of those monochrome Steptoes which were previously only available from substandard sources. And if this is indeed the case I'll especially be looking forward to the upgrade of the one - forget it's title - where they squeeze a full-size pool or snooker table into the premises and proceed to play each other at it; which I thought was the best of all the Steptoe episodes. All he said is that he's "completed" them. This basically covers 1 episode, the episode in question, 'My Old Man's a Tory' which only existed as a domestic recording. He says "original format" which is technically incorrect as the master tapes no longer exist, we can assume he means telerecordings which are the next best thing. Other than 'My Old Man's a Tory', every other b/w episode existed as a telerecording. In short, we have no reason to believe PM has found any more Steptoe material.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 5, 2018 21:45:12 GMT
A gentle reminder that any further Who recoveries from PM (or indeed anyone else) are not necessarily proof for any claptrap theories. Recoveries are good. Claptrap theories are bad. Remember, kids.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 5, 2018 21:29:49 GMT
Oh superb! The M&W clip on the One Show looked like it had chroma dots too.
I never liked Steptoe but checked out the episode as a technical curiosity. Good news for fans of that as the domestic recording is awful!
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Post by simonashby on Oct 2, 2018 17:58:04 GMT
I can't accept that 'watch them all' is a figure of speech, no. Let's examine that quote again, objectively: “One day when I’m not the Doctor anymore and I’ve handed over the baton, I’m gonna watch ALL of #DoctorWho from start to finish!"Look at the word ALL. Why was is ALL in the @bbc6breakfast in caps? ALL. why not just "all"? I think there's some clue in the caps. I can't imagine, either, Jodie Whittaker in an interview being asked about the early episodes and when it's mentioned they are missing, she replies, "I didn't know that." Seriously, no. She knows. She's playing Doctor Who for Godsakes. Re. "ALL" - that's just an emphasis. Very common in written language. A lot of episodes in the long running series, that a BIG commitment to watch them all. Emphasis. I'm not stating that Jodie doesn't know about missing episodes, or anything similar, simply that she clearly isn't as obsessed as you. I'm going to end this here. Either you're trolling or need to get some perspective.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 2, 2018 16:38:37 GMT
I just find it hard to believe that an actor playing Doctor Who under Chris Chibnall wouldn't be aware of the archival status of the entire series and I also find it harder to believe that, if the actor knew this, she would make a statement implying that it's possible to watch all. Based on the facts that we have, this is unfounded. Plus you really need to understand that saying that she'll watch them all, or to that effect, is only a figure of speech. People aren't pedantic all the time - in fact people are more often the opposite to that. People will gloss over details, exaggerate, or spew hyperbole all in the name of normal conversation. You're making something that is perfectly normal something special. This is why the whole thing is unremarkable and the fact that this thread hasn't become a hotbed of discussion.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 2, 2018 13:25:55 GMT
Eugh. Let me quote you then: "(and don't give me any of that viewable via telesnap/animation BS; that's clearly NOT what she's referring to here)" How do you know that? Can you prove she knows? You can't. Well, I did say in the last post "And I can't prove she does know". But defintely she's not referring to a telesnap version of Marco Polo or The Crusades. That is not an example of watching all of Doctor Who! Backtracking in a later post does not invalidate anything I've said. You can't say one thing and then later say "oops I didn't mean to" and then that's all okay. Again, you are saying that she is definitely not referring to tele snap reconstructions, contradicting everything you just said and tried to pick me up on. You can't know this either way despite the fact that you continue to say you do. You are taking what Jodie said literally. It shouldn't be. For a practical and reasonable life we cannot unpick what people say to such a degree. Just because she is playing the Doctor does not mean she is actively in touch with the whole missing episodes thing. It wasn't relevant to the interview. It's not like PM said this, or Paul V, or whatever. The connection is too loose to be of any reasonable interest, even if you want it to, it just isn't. That is why it's not an interesting discussion. All you want is a discussion that reconfirms what you want to hear.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 2, 2018 11:41:14 GMT
There really is nothing to see here. How do you know that? Can you prove she doesn't know? You can't. And I can't prove she does know either. But that's the great thing about the freedom of speculation, and the freedom to shoot down that speculation. I certainly hope it is true that we will receive news of a substantial find in a few years time. At the moment the market is crying out for new releases. Of the few, we have Season 12 on Blu Ray in 'HD', when the film sequences aren't even from the original negative. This release seems to be something of a gap filler for me, and also appears to contravene the trade descriptions act, somewhat ( The Trade Descriptions Act 1968 is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom which prevents manufacturers, retailers or service industry providers from misleading consumers as to what they are spending their money on)! Eugh. Let me quote you then: "(and don't give me any of that viewable via telesnap/animation BS; that's clearly NOT what she's referring to here)" How do you know that? Can you prove she knows? You can't.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 1, 2018 16:11:01 GMT
For me, I find the idea that someone who has worked for a Producer and Doctor Who fan like Chris Chibnall for so long not knowing that you cannot watch all Doctor Who as utter nonsense. She would be in the know about this and aware about the archival status of Doctor Who. Well you are in the minority then. The idea that missing episodes are on Jodie's radar is a stretch. You'll find that the world doesn't revolve around missing episodes. They clearly do for you, which is why you're reading so much into this. Even if she is fully aware of the situation inside and out, saying that she'll watch "all of the episodes" or something to that effect is perfectly normal to say. People aren't pedantic all the time. Your confirmation bias is blinding you. There really is nothing to see here.
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Post by simonashby on Sept 29, 2018 7:56:48 GMT
People don't need to mention every little detail and caveat in a conversation. Have you had a conversation with people before? Do you actually know any human beings?
I can never tell with these posts if you're serious or not.
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Post by simonashby on Aug 10, 2018 19:23:21 GMT
This has been talked about before. I seem to remember that the only surviving tape that one held Doctor Who is a Blue Peter episode. The tape once held Enemy of the World 3. If it were recoverable, we'd possibly have the most pristine 1960s episode if nothing else! Was a few years ago, so maybe some more information has come to light since? I doubt it. I'm not an expert on the exact process of wiping, but from what I hear it's a bit like melting an ice sculpture. You could collect the water and refreeze it to create something new, but you can't un-melt it. But 20 so years ago people would have said Chroma Dot recovery was impossible, no? I'm open to any new technology disproving our common perceptions. The difference here though is that people knew the signal existed, but never thought it could be decoded. Here, there is no evidence that the signal exists in the first place. I guess it's for an expert to answer though.
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Post by simonashby on Jul 27, 2018 19:45:33 GMT
No the only Troughton story's recorded in colour were The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors and The Two Doctors Surely this counts as a colour Troughton too? youtu.be/VmylI6SOzRkNope. Not an episode of Doctor Who. Not made by the BBC. Not Patrick Troughton.
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Post by simonashby on Jun 30, 2018 20:44:59 GMT
Fanatical obsession is not a default status for most people with most things. This IS "Doctor Who" we're talking about... That doesn't account for the possibility of people in possession of missing Doctor Who who aren't massive fans.
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