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Post by John Wall on Feb 6, 2024 0:55:33 GMT
To maybe get a better feel of how decisions are made, I'm curious how much markup there actually is and how much the animators are paid for their work, how much the rt gets paid for their input and whether these are financially profitable for bbc They’re obviously profitable. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be made. The rest of your questions, you won’t get an answer to because, to be frank, it’s none of your business. Absolutely. From one end you’ve got the cost of paying the animation studio, etc, etc, from the other it’s worth noting that the likes of Amazon, HMV, etc get a cut. However, overall there must be at least a reasonable ROI for the releases to continue. One thing we can conclude is that animation isn’t affordable with the level of sales realised.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 5, 2024 14:55:59 GMT
To maybe get a better feel of how decisions are made, I'm curious how much markup there actually is and how much the animators are paid for their work, how much the rt gets paid for their input and whether these are financially profitable for bbc Look at, for example, the end credits for an animated story such as Evil and start counting the number of people involved in the animation. Some of those are only going to do a few hours but others are going to be employed for weeks and weeks. I dunno how much they’re paid but it’s going to be considerably more that the National Living Wage - and then there are the overheads.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 4, 2024 20:48:57 GMT
Whaddya do in the afternoons Ray 😇?
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Post by John Wall on Feb 3, 2024 21:45:21 GMT
It's about time they released another B&W season! Well, there’s insufficient funds in the BluRay budget for animation so let’s see: Season 1. Marco Polo missing but there are no telesnaps for Episode 4. Season 5. Wheel has two surviving episodes, an animation for the start of Episode 1 and telesnaps for the missing episodes. Season 6. Space Pirates has one surviving episode and no telesnaps. Without funds for animation a BluRay release could do little with either Marco Polo or Space Pirates. It’s difficult to see the point of a telesnap reconstruction for six out of seven episodes. My hope is that Wheel will be animated for the “standard” DVD/BluRay range which would mean that it could be included in a future BluRay release of Season 5.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 3, 2024 17:57:17 GMT
Exactly. Also, since it does contain a larger area and cleaner image, it would be suitable to transfer the scenes to the restored footage when it's fully restored. Plus, if the B&W film sequence print has the Chroma dots, we can use the color recovery method on it while the rest of the episodes gets manually colorized. A black and white sequence print would not have chromadots by nature of how chromadots come into being ie: via taking a b&w film of a tv monitor where they forgot to filter out the colour information. So the three RGB dots on the screen will all have different values to be counter worked out from the b&w telerecording. If it was film , filmed on location there wouldn't be any chromadots because there is no monitor involved. I can easily explain this in more details via private message. A basic understanding of how television was made back then would make it all clear it is quite simple really but without knowing the technology back then it won't be discernable Just file it with “NTSC prints” and “Beta scans”.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 2, 2024 14:01:47 GMT
March 18th is showing as the release date on hmv for season 15....lots of chatter on various groups about season 6 coming soon. I really hope not. I understand why they did 2 without the crusade but I think space pirates would be such a good animation and it would really suck for a collection to come out without it and it get one later down the road. A Troughton set is long overdue and Season 6 is obviously the most likely candidate. However, 'The Space Pirates' would almost certainly have to be animated first since there is so little visual material available to make a reconstruction. Indeed, it could potentially make a great animation and I think it would really benefit from the process, although with no indication that this story is coming any time soon in cartoon form (nor, indeed, Season 5's 'The Wheel in Space'), I fear we might have to wait a little longer for Pat to make his Collection debut... Those two are the obvious Troughton seasons and Five has the advantage that Wheel has two surviving episodes. I’m happy to have another colour season if it means getting an animated Wheel or Space Pirates.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 1, 2024 23:41:43 GMT
I may well cancle my amazon order and try an in person order at hmv where I can pick it up on the day or the a different vendor. I miss zoom. 10% off every order with a fresh email address and would regularly turn up the Friday or Saturday before release. Just amazon are giving me no reason to stay, late delivery no cheaper elsewhere. I'm a hungry who fan lol I’m away for a long weekend on the 25th so I’m not that bothered!
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Post by John Wall on Feb 1, 2024 23:09:59 GMT
Is it an amazon order? Just checked amazon is showing 18th as the release date, but expects to deliver on the 23rd. Season 2 arrived late for me Yep, it came through 3/4 hour ago - but gives the 25th.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 1, 2024 22:25:53 GMT
March 18th is showing as the release date on hmv for season 15....lots of chatter on various groups about season 6 coming soon. I really hope not. I understand why they did 2 without the crusade but I think space pirates would be such a good animation and it would really suck for a collection to come out without it and it get one later down the road. I just received an email saying 25 March.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 26, 2024 18:54:50 GMT
It was fairly extensively discussed here. AFAIK no actual prints have ever been produced, it seems that someone contacted Ian claiming to have them and he then went public. There’s no record of DW being sold to Taiwan or any route by which they could have got there.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 26, 2024 15:14:16 GMT
I think IL was hoaxed, he was given information he wanted to hear!
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Post by John Wall on Jan 26, 2024 9:59:09 GMT
I don’t recall anything specific in 2014 although I think IL may have been hoaxed.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 23, 2024 22:23:59 GMT
The b&w print is of interest - and not just for the omitted scene. The original colour film would have been transferred onto 2” VT for broadcast and then telerecorded onto 16mm b&w to give us the telerecording we have. The b&w print should have a larger frame area and may well be sharper, not having gone through several stages to result in a telerecording. Exactly. Also, since it does contain a larger area and cleaner image, it would be suitable to transfer the scenes to the restored footage when it's fully restored. Plus, if the B&W film sequence print has the Chroma dots, we can use the color recovery method on it while the rest of the episodes gets manually colorized. It’s a b&w print from the original colour negative - the chances of chroma dots are, on a scale of one to ten, minus infinity.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 23, 2024 20:08:39 GMT
The b&w print is of interest - and not just for the omitted scene.
The original colour film would have been transferred onto 2” VT for broadcast and then telerecorded onto 16mm b&w to give us the telerecording we have. The b&w print should have a larger frame area and may well be sharper, not having gone through several stages to result in a telerecording.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 23, 2024 20:03:46 GMT
The digital scans of the Betamax tapes recorded by Tom Lundie, an associate of Ian Levine. How do you scan a video tape? You don’t, but you can convert it electronically. File it with “NTSC print”!
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