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Post by Paul Rumbol on Mar 5, 2015 20:31:51 GMT
Tape 28 is '50 Years of Music; -BBC TV -6th November 1972. The BBC retain a copy in their archive.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Feb 18, 2015 23:20:56 GMT
Ron thank you for giving us this much valued update after so many years.It's really appreciated. Although you encountered rancour and hostility from a few hotheads at the time, i hope you realize the majority of members here were very excited by your posts and supported you wholeheartedly. And I must say you always went to meticulous lengths to furnish detailed answers to everyone's questions which must have expended a lot of your time and energy. So good on you for being the bigger man to shrug off all that negativity and give us this welcome update today. I'm the guy who was after one of the Cliff Richard tapes you may recall.Do keep us posted re. any future developments
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Feb 15, 2015 20:03:34 GMT
Did this really deserve a sprawling 2 hour slot? Even megastars aren't afforded this length of time by the BBC. I suspect canny Clark gave BBC commissioner Mark Cooper an ultimatum that he wasn't prepared to accept edits (it's all or nothing) and Cooper caved in. Consequently his re-edit of an obviously old documentary morphed into one blatant self-indulgent ego-trip. Plus at 2 hours that's double-bubble for Clark! A good day's work if you can get it.
Though skilfully edited i found the first hour and half intensely annoying.There were at most 4 good songs in their entire repertoire (if you really can call Bits n Pieces good!) and we had to suffer 'Glad All Over' being played over and over on a seemingly endless loop every ten minutes so Clark could squeeze in yet more eulogies from his abject interviewees. They individually described DC5 as rock gods, legendary.. a force sent by God! A looming face pic of Clark appeared at one point to a vocal chorus of 'Hallalujah'. Yuk! There's no modesty with this man. It was all just too much. The interviews looked scripted and off-the-cuff remarks half hearted and contrived. And something else too which many here are aware of. He's notorious for meddling and constantly re-editing his own footage to achieve a spectacular effect. Like a magpie he will borrow footage of 'screaming audiences' randomly from other sources to embellish his own edits. Ive seen him extend songs by repeating verses so he can cram in more stock footage of screaming girls and shuffle his placing in a bill so it looks like the Beatles are supporting the DC5. He knows and uses every trick in the book.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Dec 20, 2014 16:23:19 GMT
This has been covered in another thread Simon. It shows dress rehearsals from two shows 4th October and 1st November 1958 captured on a Bolex wind-up camera. Great quality images. I doubt there's any other surviving footage out there which captures 'Oh Boy!' so early in its run. Tommy Steele had appeared on 1st November edition together with Cliff Richard who you see in the sequence. As a fellow stickler-for-detail Simon, you may be interested to know that running orders to two of the lost shows telerecorded for America were found several years ago. They reveal on 25th April '59 Lord Rockingham performed 'Wee Tom' and on 2nd May they performed 'Tom Hark' (the hit for Elias & His Zigzag Jive Flutes). After their airing in Britain both those shows were broadcast on American ABC on 13th Aug.& 23rd July '59 respectively and unedited it seems, so it would be wonderful to discover they do reside intact in some forgotten personal archive Stateside. That's my new year wish and has been for more years than i care to recall!
Artists in order of appearance are: Cliff Richard, Vernons Girls (long clip),Ronnie Carroll, Don Lang, Vince Eager with Marty Wilde, Musical Director Harry Robinson addressing the audience, Lord Rockingham, Vince Eager, Cherry Wainer, Dong Lang (again), John Barry Seven, Cuddly Dudley, Peter Elliott, Tommy Steele and the Dallas Boys.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Dec 20, 2014 13:51:13 GMT
Yes many thanks, great research by you guys. Some years back i checked with ITV -Carlton Intl back then- to see if they held a copy(mistakingly believing it was an ATV production). Their answer was of course no. Now you've established it was YTV my hopes are raised a copy still survives somewhere. Incidentally L.R released a 10th anniversary revival LP to coincide with this TV broadcast entitled ' The Return of Lord Rockingham' in late '68.
Off topic, William do you own any copies of NME between June 1958 and June 1959?
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Dec 18, 2014 22:42:38 GMT
Simon that's just a montage of clips from the two surviving editions in Canal's archive when they performed 'Long John' (4th April 1959) and 'Rah Rah Rockingham' (30th May 1959). In the 'lost' 28th March 1959 show in my possession, there's nothing new from L.R- it's yet another peformamce of 'Long John' i'm afraid!
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Nov 22, 2014 18:30:37 GMT
Such a raw and vital sound from this inexperienced trio of 17 year olds performing a late morning set when there was only a smattering of people in the bar. And remember it was this combo who debuted on 'On Boy! from mid September 1958 performing numbers like 'Move It' and 'Don't Bug Me Baby' (another great song penned as Cliff's 2nd single release but rejected by Columbia because they thought it sounded too American!) www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0AdmFB2awI
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Nov 21, 2014 15:28:07 GMT
Simon's right except i think the guy on left is John Foster (Cliff's first manager who died a couple of years ago). The picture was taken at the Kilburn State Theatre on Sunday 25th May 1958.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Nov 21, 2014 9:26:04 GMT
I'm sad to report that Oh Boy's! famous organist Cherry Wainer died at her home in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA on 15th November 2014, aged 78. Cherry appeared in every single show playing on her upholstered Hammond B3 organ and for many decades played the Las Vegas cabaret circuit with her partner, 'Oh Boy!'s drummer Don Storer. Don became blind in later years and Cherry became his carer until his death in 2006.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Nov 3, 2014 17:38:03 GMT
That's gone for good now Dave. It ran for 12 years and served its purpose in revealing previously lost material: namely live audio recordings and more importantly a lost 'Oh Boy!' show from March 1959.
All these feature in the latest edit of my documentary together with interviews with Jack Good, Cliff Richard, Bruce Welch & Brian Locking of the Shadows, Vince Eager,three of the Vernons Girls and BFI television historian Dick Fiddy. With blind optimism i'll be taking the new edit to the BBC early next year so i can suffer the ignominy of being turned down by them yet again.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Oct 28, 2014 16:02:10 GMT
Thank you Peter for that insight. It's interesting to note British ABC telerecorded an unknown number of earlier 'Oh Boy!' shows (November/December 1958 most likely) which were screened to American ABC exucutives during their successful sales pitch in January 1959. It appears one or more of those earlier performances were edited into the American prints. For example in the first US broadcast (July 16, 1959)'TV Guide' lists John Barry Seven among the guests - and they had bowed out of the series by 6th December 1958.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Oct 28, 2014 14:37:36 GMT
Thank you Tom for these details. The thirteen telerecorded shows sent out to America were edited down to eight shows- hence i think some,if not all of of US shows you list, are an edit of one or more shows. For example <US Show #4: August 13, 1959 (possibly UK Show #32)> is most likely to be an edit of shows #32 and #33 (the latter marking Michael Cox's only appearance in series) A cameraman who worked on the series told me ABC America most likely transferred the 16mm prints to tape for ease of editing. His implication is that the redundant prints may have been ditched afterwards. I'm no technical expert so perhaps others more informed might want to conjecture on the most likely outcome of the prints given that scenario.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Oct 21, 2014 13:02:43 GMT
Unfortunately that's from the surviving final show on 30th May 1959 Ray. Its the same show from which oft seen clips of Cliff's 'Turn Me Loose' and 'Three Cool Cats' are taken. Most of the songs in that show are abridged because Jack Good crammed in 10 guest artists for the final week instead of the usual five. There are still 10 missing shows out there Ray recorded for the American market between 7th March to 23rd May 1959 so keep up your good work and keep on looking!
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Mar 6, 2014 14:53:01 GMT
We've managed to re-upload the website again Alfred, even though its content is now 12 years old and much of it out of date. The home page briefly outlines how my 'Oh Boy!'documentary remains a 'work in progress'. www.ohboy.info/One positive did emerge after BBC4's Controller Richard Klein declined its commission in 2012. I was introduced to a retired BBC cameraman and his sound recordist who offered their services for free. A magnanimous gesture on their part. So far i've got 8 interviews in the can, and Cliff Richard is up next on his return to the UK this summer. I hear Richard Klein has now left the BBC. When i complete my re-edit I'm taking it back to the BBC's Music Commissioner Mark Cooper -whom i must say has been very supportive throughout the whole process. He's said all along BBC4 is the only home for this.
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Post by Paul Rumbol on Mar 4, 2014 13:49:06 GMT
Some rare wonderful footage here from two of the earliest Oh Boy! shows broadcast October/November 1958. This mute footage is all we will probably ever see from those earliest shows as none were telerecorded. Jack Good kindly allowed the 'teaboy' at the Hackney Empire to use his wind-up Paillard Bolex B-8L camera to record short sequences of the full dress rehearsals (prior to the live broadcasts). That teaboy, Jeremy Hoare, went on to become an ATV cameraman and photographer. Wonderful stuff! Alas it's all he has in his archive relating to 'Oh Boy!' Note the longest uninterrupted clip is of the Vernons Girls. As a 17 year old in 1958 Jeremy said he'd never ever seen girls in shorts before.
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