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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2005 16:05:18 GMT
Does the ITN covergae of the 1969 Moon Landing still exist? If so, on what format? Thanks.
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Post by dubs honest on Sept 4, 2005 20:14:44 GMT
www.itnarchive.com/granadavisual/APOLLO 11 . Date: 21/07/1969 Order Ref: T21076903 . . 21/07/1969 T21076903.htm APOLLO 11 Successful landing and walk on the Moon: a) Astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin (Buzz) Aldrin report on touchdown: b) Aldrin asks world to give thanks: c) Armstrong and Aldrin descend from the LEM: walks and activity on Moon: d) Report from Houston Control centre: (Hargreaves) e) Report on Moscow reaction: (Derek Taylor) f) Houston: Mrs Neil Armstrong holds open air press conference on husband's landing on the Moon: g) Animation of Moon landing: h) Simulation of separation of Command Module and the LEM: i) Jodrell Bank: Director Sir Bernard Lovell interview on landing: (Peter Sissons) j) Formation of flying over Moon: LEM travelling after Apollo 10 separation: k) Tracking over moon suface (from Apollo 10): l) Jodrell Bank: Sir Bernard Lovell interview on descent from the LEM: (Sissons): m) Houston Control from thirty minutes to touchdown: through to touchdown: Talkback between Centre and Astronauts: n) As synd 21.7.69: Walk on moon; Richard Nixon phone message: (In orbit; moon landings; Lunar explorer module; moon walks; USSR; US Army;) a) MAG Aldrin: Three and half down - nine forward................. ......................................................... Armstrong: Eagle has handed Houston Centre: Relief to alot of guys about to turn blue; breathing again; thanks alot MAG 16mm ITN 1.30 mins 56 ft 20.7.69 / Late special b) MAG Aldrin: This is the LEM pilot, and I would like to take this opportunity to every persons listening to pause and contemplate the events of the last few hours and give thanks in his or her own way. MAG 16mm ITN 30 secs 19 ft 20.7.69 / Late Special c) Descent and walk on Moon The following are sequences and NOT shots Armstrong down LEM ladder Armstrong away from ladder; asks Aldrin to bring down camera Nixon Replies SOF: Thank you very much........................ ...........................on the Hornet on Thursday. Bulk samples taken (1hr 40mins into walk) Astronauts give details of their activities Passive seismometer deployed; portable life support (2 hrs into walk) Armstrong on Left Aldrin moves out on Right; says has difficulty with PSE - flat surface scarce Laser Ranging Retro Reflector set up (out of shot) Core sample taken of Left Aldrin begins to go back into LEM Moon rock caskets winched up into LEM Hatch of LEM closed Live (Satellite) T/R 438 ft 20.7.69 / Late Special T/R as synd in Sep roll 105 ft also F/G Pos d) USA, Houston Control Centre MAG Hargreaves: Well jubilation and an enormous feeling of relief ......................................pressroom chaos heard.. ....................................say anything at all. MAG 16mm ITN 1.20 mins 50 ft 20.7.69 / Late Special e) RUSSIA, Moscow MAG Frank Taylor: Any Russians who wanted to.................... .........................................Moon's surface. MAG 16mm ITN 50 secs 30 ft 20.7.69 / Late Special f) USA, Houston MS Mrs Neil Armstrong along R-L outside to Press: SOF: (Q: Feeling better?): Yes and No.................... ....................crosses fingers by face for pictures ....................................stay awake. Video Satellite 20.7.69 / Late Special g) ORBIT Animation of Moon landing MS Both Command Module and LEM along L-R and separate MS Orbit round moon MS Astronauts at controls BV Pull Out to show two astronauts standing MS LEM fires first stage MS Orbit round moon MS LEM moving in, second firing MS Orbit round moon MS LEM slows down before landing BV Astronauts at controls MS LEM landing on Moon BV Astronaut as lands MS Surface of Moon MS LEM Hovers, just above surface BV Astronaut at controls MS LEM landing on surface MS It hits surface POS 16mm Grumman 1.44 mins 65 ft 20.7.69 / 6.10pm h) Simulation of Separation CS Command Module and LEM together CMS They separate CS Nose of Command module through sight CU Undocking; legs of LEM in f/g MS Command Module pulls away; seen from LEM CMS Command Module pulls away MS Both: as separate Pos 16mm CBS 42 secs 26.5 ft 20.7.69 / 6.44pm i) ENGLAND, Jodrell Bank LMS Zoom Into CMS: Lovell Outside SOF: Lunar fifteen has just completed.................................................. GV Two Radar dishes; Zoom Into CS of looking R-L Pull Out to Lovell and Sissons: SOF:.................................... ...........................................of the Russians. Granada Live (Video) 20.7.69 / 6.33pm j) ABOVE MOON MS LEM travelling round moon on Apollo 10 flight after separation LMS Ditto; away down; almost out of picture; shaky Colour 16mm Nasa 1.14 mins 46.5 ft 20.7.69 / 6.55pm k) This section now with Tx 19/11/69 l) ENGLAND, Jodrell Bank Night MS Radar dish: Tilt down and Zoom Into Lovell and Sissons Seated Outside: SOF:..........................Oh yes indeed. (Handover) Granada Live (Video) 20.7.69 / 10.24pm m) USA, Houston Control Centre Control Room: Report from thirty minutes to touchdown through to touchdown with supers and talkback between astronauts and Control Centre Live Satellite 20.7.69 / 8.45pm T/R as synd in Sep roll 112ft Unused with cuts Apollo wives in Aldrins garden: 16mm/Pos UPI, NY 29 ft n) As Synd 21.7.69: (kept with Tx 20.7.69) MOON Sequences showing Armstrong and Aldrin descending from LEM: Plaque read: US flag hoisted: President Nixon speaks to them on telephone. NEG T/R 16mm ITN 2.37 mins 98 ft Synd 21.7.69 / Kept with Tx 20.7.69 Unused with Tx: Moon: Armstrong takes pics 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 53 ft Moon: Aldrin joins Armstrong on surface 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 50ft Moon: Space plaque unveiled 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 37 ft Moon: US flag planted 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 60 ft Moon: Experiments collected 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 41 ft Moon: LEM stood standing 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 29ft Moon: President Nixon talks to astronauts 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 67 ft Moon: Astronauts load the LEM 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 36ft Moon: Astronauts return to LEM 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 50ft Houston: Mrs Collins and Armstrong comment 16mm/Pos T/R CBS 32ft Wapakonea; Ohio; Armstrong's parents comment on son's achievements 16mm/Pos CBS 42ft Texas: Lyndon Johnson on success of US programme and Russia lagging: (exclusive) 16mm/Pos CBS 171ft Apollo world reaction: Pope Paul watches on telly; gives blessing: SOF: People in Paris; Amsterdam; Tokyo; GI's in Vietnam; Soldier comments: SOF 16mm/Pos CBS 141ft NB Unused with T/X 20.7.69: Edge Mag (Rescued from Alfie Wilson's Child of the Sixties) Neil Armstrong saying; One small step for man, but giant step for man kind" c15ft: Very poor quality sound. 60490/465B/1/69 Thats your lot - god knows what it all means though....
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Post by Laurence Piper on Sept 5, 2005 18:08:04 GMT
Hmm, makes no reference to the studio presentation with Alistair Burnett and Peter Fairley though. Seems like just actual moon footage (which NASA would have anyway). I remember watching ITV's coverage at the time and that would be as interesting to watch again now. Wondre if it does survive? ITN seems to have kept a lot of stuff right back so hopefully also something this important...
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Post by John Stewart Miller on Sept 7, 2005 0:15:52 GMT
None of the retrospects I've seen since the events have featured any kind of news bulletin broadcast bar the BBCs inclusion of super 8mm (private) of the opening of a 1969 news bulletin; Apollo 8 on B/W T-R; I think Apollo 14 on T-R (BBC, James Birke) and recently Apollo 12 or 13 on colour VT.
As you say no ITN footage whatsoever is ever used with Peter Fairley (who also appeared on 'Magpie' and 'Today'); with the model spacecraft. According to the 1969 TV times, the footage was taped and repeated on the following sunday. I'm sure theres an entry for an ITN bulletin from 1969 at the NFA, but again no reference to the actual off air broadcast or even an abridged version.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Sept 7, 2005 14:00:22 GMT
You could almost believe the conspiracy theorists here! It seems very strange indeed to me that both the BBC and ITV are missing virtually all (all?) of their Apollo 11 coverage - the most historically important one - whereas they seem to have at least selections of material in one form or another from the missions either side of this one!
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Post by Robbie on Sept 7, 2005 14:03:50 GMT
I think the BBC has pretty much all of it's Apollo 13 coverage.
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Post by WilliamM on Sept 7, 2005 16:16:07 GMT
I think the BBC has pretty much all of it's Apollo 13 coverage. except the first few moments of the first James Burk news flash is missing because it took a minute or so to turn on the video machine.
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Post by Gareth R on Sept 7, 2005 16:28:55 GMT
I had to delve through hours of ITN archive footage at the beginning of last year, and I discovered that, in common with the BBC, they have very little studio VT of bulletins until the 80s - for the 50s, 60s and 70s it's nearly all just the insert films.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Sept 7, 2005 23:48:14 GMT
I think the BBC has pretty much all of it's Apollo 13 coverage. We were talking about Apollo 11 though!
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Post by Robbie on Sept 8, 2005 10:50:12 GMT
Yes thank you I'm aware we were talking about Apollo 11,I mentioned Apollo 13 to illustrate how bizarre it is that they seem to have plenty of footage of everything APART from Apollo 11.I was continuing on from what the previous corrospondent had said,which you would have known if you'd bothered to read what he said.
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Post by David Boothroyd on Sept 8, 2005 10:56:58 GMT
As you say no ITN footage whatsoever is ever used with Peter Fairley (who also appeared on 'Magpie' and 'Today'); with the model spacecraft. According to the 1969 TV times, the footage was taped and repeated on the following sunday. I'm sure theres an entry for an ITN bulletin from 1969 at the NFA, but again no reference to the actual off air broadcast or even an abridged version. The moon landing was handled by ITV with a joint programme made by LWT and ITN, with LWT providing "moon-related" entertainment helmed by David Frosd. All present anticipated that there would be a lot of boring bits with no interesting pictures before interesting things started to happen. It's likely LWT made a recording and they were pretty good at keeping VT over the years. So check their archive as well.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Sept 8, 2005 16:31:29 GMT
It's totally bizarre that footage of Apollo 10 and 12 exist and yet the most important one seems completely missing from the archives.
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Post by John Stewart Miller on Sept 25, 2005 21:39:12 GMT
As you say no ITN footage whatsoever is ever used with Peter Fairley (who also appeared on 'Magpie' and 'Today'); with the model spacecraft. According to the 1969 TV times, the footage was taped and repeated on the following sunday. I'm sure theres an entry for an ITN bulletin from 1969 at the NFA, but again no reference to the actual off air broadcast or even an abridged version. The moon landing was handled by ITV with a joint programme made by LWT and ITN, with LWT providing "moon-related" entertainment helmed by David Frosd. All present anticipated that there would be a lot of boring bits with no interesting pictures before interesting things started to happen. It's likely LWT made a recording and they were pretty good at keeping VT over the years. So check their archive as well. Sounds great! I will do. I'm aware that material from highlights on news broadcasts of the first moon landing do exist, I think theres an ITN news at the NFA. The thing I hadn't seen was the actual 'live' as going out stuff, with Peter Fairley showing the space craft models and explaining details. Similar slots appeared on 'Magpie' and 'Today' though those too were largely live, without recording taking place (to my knowledge)-.
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Post by John Stewart Miller on Oct 9, 2005 23:31:22 GMT
Hmm, makes no reference to the studio presentation with Alistair Burnett and Peter Fairley though. Seems like just actual moon footage (which NASA would have anyway). I remember watching ITV's coverage at the time and that would be as interesting to watch again now. Wondre if it does survive? ITN seems to have kept a lot of stuff right back so hopefully also something this important... I've looked at this listing again, and reference is made to some Peter Sissons sequences. Whether these are studio cuts or film inserts I don't know, but theres a chance this is studio VT.
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Post by John Stewart Miller on Oct 9, 2005 23:38:22 GMT
The moon landing was handled by ITV with a joint programme made by LWT and ITN, with LWT providing "moon-related" entertainment helmed by David Frosd. All present anticipated that there would be a lot of boring bits with no interesting pictures before interesting things started to happen. It's likely LWT made a recording and they were pretty good at keeping VT over the years. So check their archive as well. Sounds great! I will do. I'm aware that material from highlights on news broadcasts of the first moon landing do exist, I think theres an ITN news at the NFA. The thing I hadn't seen was the actual 'live' as going out stuff, with Peter Fairley showing the space craft models and explaining details. Similar slots appeared on 'Magpie' and 'Today' though those too were largely live, without recording taking place (to my knowledge)-. I've just realised though, if LWT, wouldn't those productions be on the same (ITN) index now? The peter Fairley clips in my mind, to be fair, are from a later mission near the time of 'Time slip' (1970). Like the BBC they used what looked like the 48 scale Revell model kits you could buy in big London toy shops like Hamleys, or Woolworths. They'd added details though. They were proffessional sprayed jobs so poor old average kids couldn't imitate them. The TV times I saw may not have been referring to the first moon landing, but I think was 1969. It clearly said that a recording of previous weeks transmissions (highlights) were repeated the on the following Sunday. This does indicate at least not all the studio bits being live at the time (generally for these missions on ITV).
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