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Post by George D on Nov 12, 2014 22:20:05 GMT
Having not seen nuwho since the mid tennent episodes, I am not criticing the current season (or the matt smith seasons) .Simply stating that the comment you made about how the Dr reacted did not appear supporting the claim that it is not teen girl centered. From what ive been told, girls tend to be more romance driven while guys tend to be more interested in other things.
The type of reason i would have preferred the dr give would have been a more moral answer rather than "love". The comment implies the dr is motivated by who he loves rather than the right thing to do... which would have been a very good lesson/moral for young viewers.
While I havent seen the new season, at this point, i think the focus is simply to be all things to all people. An older dr for the old fans and yet have something in it to try to keep the girls also. Whether its working or not, I dont know because many of the older fans would watch if the dr is sitting there burping for a half hour while the young kids need to be hooked with a lot of other choices out there. Of course I just wonder if they actually wrote good drama stories instead of formula pieces stringing together some "oh wow" moments if that would work better.
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Post by mattplace on Nov 12, 2014 23:46:53 GMT
Shame they forgot to make it entertaining... Did they, Matt? Not entertaining. Well, I wonder.  Let's just look at last week's ep, Death In Heaven. Action? Yep, big plane going down in flames and the Doctor falling out of the sky.  Classic era links? Plenty here, from old threats returned to menace Earth anew to old friends remembered. So many visual cues and little flourishes, from the Cyberman under the tarp in the morgue so evocative of The Moonbase to the many links to The Invasion. Actual vintage Cyber head, not in a glass case as set dressing but thrown down as a challenge!  Scary moments? Yeah, this is taken care of. The evil scheme is conceptually horrific. It plays on fears as old as humanity has been around. People complained! Just like old times!  Real stakes, not pretending? Osgood dies, dust to dust. Danny does so several times. They didn't get better, and the world was not magically made unharmed at the end. The cost was real, the damage and memories remain.  New things? Hello, The Mistress?? A surprise new take on an old and popular character, brought back with a new level of competence and mesmerizingly distinctive evilness.  Dramatic tonality? There were jokes, and they were utterly necessary to lighten the mood. Recall the way Kate Stewart so confidently scares off the first wave of Cybermen outside St. Paul's. Cool, calm, collected - just like her Dad! And recall how she connects with the Doctor at their first meeting, at the same time. Recall how deliciously the Mistress plays with pretty much everybody. Or Capaldi's casual disdain for lots of things!  There's so many other things too. Difficult choices e.g. Danny's Cybernization, the Doctor's being faced with a terrible personal choice to stop Clara making it herself. The tragic solitary scene of the Doctor dealing with still being unable to find Gallifrey. Noble sacrifices. Real jeopardy. A longer running time, to fit it all in!  If none of these things are what you consider entertaining, fair enough. I don't know why you want to watch, or why in Classic era eps any of these sort of elements are more valid to you. But to say Death In Heaven was dull (not entertaining) just doesn't make sense to me. You can say Series 8 was not equally exciting every week, just as you can for any other Classic or New one. And I certainly agree with that sentiment. All I'm saying is that it's improving and Series 9 is bound to build on the strengths we've seen this year, a very nice thing to look forward to. But to each their own, of course!  Each to their own opinion.. i agree...I honestly thought the Michelle Gomez was acting in a pantomime, i really did not like her, the master now is a complete joke, all the menace from Delgado/Ainley is gone, John Simm i liked more as he had moments of depth to his character.. the mistress, for me, was a misstep. "Clara eyegate"... it was not funny and it cheapens the Doctor.. i love "doctor who".. not "the impossible Girl". it was Moffatt trying to be clever when there was absolutly no need. Longer running time... Longer does not always mean better(snigger) I actually like Capaldi's doctor.. i think he has had some good moments throughout the series, but to sum it up for me... the desire to get up at 5am to watch the simulcast on ABC is not there, i didn't care if i saw the next episode or not, and a few "non fan" friends who watch the series were telling me how bored they were this season.. I could not disagree with them. |
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Post by Paul McDermott on Nov 13, 2014 3:16:55 GMT
Each to their own opinion.. i agree...I honestly thought the Michelle Gomez was acting in a pantomime, i really did not like her, the master now is a complete joke, all the menace from Delgado/Ainley is gone, John Simm i liked more as he had moments of depth to his character.. the mistress, for me, was a misstep. "Clara eyegate"... it was not funny and it cheapens the Doctor.. i love "doctor who".. not "the impossible Girl". it was Moffatt trying to be clever when there was absolutly no need. Longer running time... Longer does not always mean better(snigger) I actually like Capaldi's doctor.. i think he has had some good moments throughout the series, but to sum it up for me... the desire to get up at 5am to watch the simulcast on ABC is not there, i didn't care if i saw the next episode or not, and a few "non fan" friends who watch the series were telling me how bored they were this season.. I could not disagree with them. Well Matt, John Simm I've liked in other things. But for me, his Master was stuck being a manic gurner for the most part. Jacobi completely captivated me, but he was only given a few minutes before he got offed! If that happened at the end of The Sound Of Drums, one of the humans shooting dead the mad British PM - only for him to regenerate, smile and be even more evil - and not be cheated a victory doing so next ep - I'd have been much happier with the story's use of him. Sadly, Ainley was not well used very often, and his take - even when it was satisfying - wasn't completely fresh as Gomez is. She can be evil and crazy, charming and funny, brilliant and ruthless, yet doesn't have to pack a heavy assault rifle or dress in a slinky outfit to compensate for being "a mere slip of a girl", as some probably unjustly dismiss her as. The Mistress is acting her age for a change and so doing has brought a new level of experience, motivation and rarely seen competence. What was that line? Sometimes the right Time Lord for the job is a Time Lady? At first glance she appears innocuous enough, something the great Roger Delgado couldn't really get away with, no matter how often he changed his name or put on spectacles. But Missy has upped the game for what we can expect from the Doctor's nemesis, to a whole new level, undreamed of by her predecessors. (Class act though he was, Delgado's version never thinned the ranks of the UNIT family regulars in all the time he was a fixture of the era.) That will require an additional level of energy from the Doctor to face off with her. Yes, you say - but snogging?! Just look at Missy, okay? She's been a very quick study, pushing people's buttons to take them offside and destroy them. Her picking up on an emotionally less available Doctor, combined with the prankish nature of her making an effort to be noticed when she's certain everything is under her control, is really very typical of her earlier incarnations. Familar but different, you know? Glad to hear you are liking Capaldi. Sometimes, something can startle you as it’s not the way you were expecting it to be. I felt that way with Matt Smith, I must say. It really reminds me of this: theinvisiblegorilla.com/gorilla_experiment.htmlThe things that were good, improving, satisfactory, in Smith’s portrayal I couldn’t see. I’d already decided he was going to be crap, like Series 5. I couldn’t see the improvements on the previous innings, on the previous Doctor. And they were there. And they came down to Moffat. I recently got caught up with the 11th's run on the cheap thanks to an iTunes sale when Series 8 started. Turns out, I really didn’t mind Series 5 at all the second time around. And what I thought wasn’t entirely to my taste I could mostly still see the reasoning for. Like Capaldi, Smith had a sticky wicket in some ways. He’s a very young chap, which gives him less experience than some. And that may also have him dismissed by certain curmudgeons in the audience who are just a bit ahead of him in years. He’s also visually rather dissimilar to Tennant in that he’s umm, less conventionally dishy-looking? (I’m trying to be circumspect here, honest!) Moreover, he’s no longer the smoothie that Tennant was, and actually puts it in your face that he doesn’t give a wet slap that others don’t like his inimitably off-kilter sense of style - a very shrewd and important character trait that gives support to the young and impressionable, which Capaldi’s emotional reserve has built on yet taken in a different but equally laudable direction. That shows a deep sense of character understanding and judicious dramatic instinct. Smith's offsiders are young people too, which risks the TARDIS looking like the Davison era. But the decisions taken were the right ones. Moffat didn’t shy away from youth, he correctly surmised it as a strength, one that would get more of the audience switched on and caring. Amelia Pond the little girl at the start was a clever bit of business, and he returned to it a few times during the Amy & Rory days. That Smith out of the crashed TARDIS was pretty much the same bloke we got throughout his tenure was a nice, refreshing change. Things were moving fast from the get-go, as they needed to. Now contrast that to the admittedly somewhat frustrating slow build and fade-in of the Capaldi model, like an old tube set warming up. Still, I’ve never seen the show more in touch with its' roots and alive again, delivering surprise and delight beyond even JNT's wildest dreams! Sometimes, it takes an older hand at the helm - which again, is where we started, in 1963, also with Coal Hill School and the St Johns Ambulance badge on the outside of the TARDIS! What I’d have liked though was for Smith to have stayed another year instead of being hastily run off in a confused mess that neither of his immediate predecessors had been handed by way of an exit, and which evoked the sort of inaccessible haze that I unhappily felt spoiled Series 6. It wasn't Time And The Rani, but it's easily the worst of the handovers since 2005. After the 2012 Christmas special, I really felt that the mix of old and new was in a shape that was much more appealing to me that I’d seen before, and Smith really seemed to have gotten better in his command of the part. He does old and weary, barmy and energetic, brilliant and klutzy in a very engaging way that makes you realise why he was cast. I’ve still a few left of his to see, having just watched Cold War, which I thought was a definite return to form and a terrific bit of work from Mark Gatiss. This recent journey through the Smith era reminds me of how it was when I was a kid, when Doctor Who was to me a big new continent of mystery. Before the VHS line took off, you could read about some of the old eps they weren’t playing on TV, but that was all. Getting to see them was half the fun! And though I dearly hope I’m underestimating, the stubbornly unreleased ep of The Underwater Menace (found in 2011?) that I’ve refused to see online means that I know there’s definitely one more “missing episode” still out there for me to enjoy, that I’ll hopefully get to see for the first time one day. I don’t care that it’s not Tomb or Enemy or Web. Or even Marco Polo! It’s Doctor Who, and I haven’t seen it yet! Matt, I don't know if you can take a chance on Capaldi and Moffat, and see how things progress in the Christmas special and Series 9. I hope you'll give it a go - I hope I've explained what there is to see, if you look beyond that damned elusive perception filter. But a break did me a world of good, and that's always an option too - especially if you can't get into it at the moment. Maybe (he said, lapsing into Old High Osirian) your Series 8 is my Series 5? Another thing about the comedy titles for Death In Heaven. It's a nice sight gag. (Boom, boom!) The inattentive viewer or those channel surfing may have been startled enough to stick with the ep. And there's no way it wasn't completely obvious it wasn't true, even with the unveiling of Missy's true identity. You're trapped in a locked room with monsters, all you can do is try to make them think you're an even scarier monster that eats monsters for breakfast! It was all Clara had to go with, and her show of bravado and Who lore was nicely improvised, just the sort of thing the Bouffant Doctor told Sarah Jane he always did! The only reason she survived was because Danny turned up at the critical point the ruse was spotted, another mainstay of Who plots from the start. As to duration? Thanks for the '96 flashback, old chap! DOCTOR: See? I told you it was small. GRACE: What is it they say? DOCTOR: Yes, they say it on my planet, too. The best part of chatting about all this with you and all my chums here, is that I get clearer in my mind why I like what the show is now doing, and why I think the show is getting better all the time. Hopefully in sharing that, I'm providing some entertainment and/or curious notions to ponder that may not have occurred to all my correspondents. And this place, as distinct from other corners of the online realm, has a genial tone and state of grace that is a credit to our members and mods alike. Glad to be a part of it, glad to be back! |
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Post by Tony Ingram on Nov 13, 2014 7:42:39 GMT
Having not seen nuwho since the mid tennent episodes, I am not criticing the current season (or the matt smith seasons) .Simply stating that the comment you made about how the Dr reacted did not appear supporting the claim that it is not teen girl centered. From what ive been told, girls tend to be more romance driven while guys tend to be more interested in other things. The type of reason i would have preferred the dr give would have been a more moral answer rather than "love". The comment implies the dr is motivated by who he loves rather than the right thing to do... which would have been a very good lesson/moral for young viewers. While I havent seen the new season, at this point, i think the focus is simply to be all things to all people. An older dr for the old fans and yet have something in it to try to keep the girls also. Whether its working or not, I dont know because many of the older fans would watch if the dr is sitting there burping for a half hour while the young kids need to be hooked with a lot of other choices out there. Of course I just wonder if they actually wrote good drama stories instead of formula pieces stringing together some "oh wow" moments if that would work better. Since you admit that you haven't actually seen the latest episodes, I'd submit that you have no real way of knowing whether they are writing good drama stories or not. Perhaps you should give them a go. You might be surprised. |
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Post by Paul McDermott on Nov 13, 2014 7:46:11 GMT
Having not seen nuwho since the mid tennent episodes, I am not criticing the current season (or the matt smith seasons) .Simply stating that the comment you made about how the Dr reacted did not appear supporting the claim that it is not teen girl centered. From what ive been told, girls tend to be more romance driven while guys tend to be more interested in other things. The type of reason i would have preferred the dr give would have been a more moral answer rather than "love". The comment implies the dr is motivated by who he loves rather than the right thing to do... which would have been a very good lesson/moral for young viewers. While I havent seen the new season, at this point, i think the focus is simply to be all things to all people. An older dr for the old fans and yet have something in it to try to keep the girls also. Whether its working or not, I dont know because many of the older fans would watch if the dr is sitting there burping for a half hour while the young kids need to be hooked with a lot of other choices out there. Of course I just wonder if they actually wrote good drama stories instead of formula pieces stringing together some "oh wow" moments if that would work better. George, I think we're in similar territory to what I mentioned in a reply to Matt, and to a lesser extent yourself already. You see that quote from Dark Water I selected and see "romance for teenage girls". You concede that you haven't seen any of Series 8, which puts you at a significant disadvantage compared to Matt and others who have, of course. All I'm saying is, there's more than one reading for those lines - and that it's something just a bit bigger, a bit more like the very thing you would prefer it was. To me, you have gotten your wish, but I don't know whether you'll be able to notice it even when you do watch. When you get to it, if you do, I really hope you'll try to see it from another angle than the one you've already solidified around without watching it. If you can, you'll realise that what I'm suggesting about the scene and the intent behind it is just what I've indicated, and just what you want! I'll give you something else to chew on, if I may. I'd not be surprised if there's New Series fans who get curious about the 20th Century version but when they look back at the greatest of the Classics unwittingly find they have similar stumbling blocks that get in the way of their capacity to enjoy them. Like the absence of contemporary pacing. Like the look of the show, both in terms of visual scope and in terms of budget. Like the casting diversity. Like the interplay between the characters and the RP voices. Like the way women are written and represented. There's lot to rankle a Newbie! Yet we both know that they will find the gems of the past can indeed reward a careful, patient and relaxed viewing. Seen in context, the very best old Doctor Who makes much more sense that coming to it cold, sans historical awareness of the times and the manner in which television was made. (I had this very experience with a mate of my advancing years who'd only seen the New Series, liked it, borrowed the Hinchcliffe era and struggled through Robot and gave up after one ep into the next story. Really!) Similarly, I'm convinced that method works today with Classic era viewers struggling to get their head around the changes wrought since 2005. And there's another good reason I think so. That was me, in 2010. I didn’t really reconnect with the New Series from Series 5 on until this year, to be honest. Four years of RTD had left me bored and to my tired, cranky eyes Moffat seemed to have driven the bus off a cliff. But I’m glad I did come back to give things another look, as the pause really did refresh the mind and cleanse the palate. A sense of proportion, of perspective can be gained by stepping back, by reappraising what was, what is, what's different and why. It's not just a matter of those meddling kids, I promise. And it's by no means bad for due thought given to a broader representation seated in front of the telly just as has been the case behind the camera and in front of it. I started watching when I was but a nipper, and kids today are doing the same with Capaldi and have done since Eccelston. Thank goodness! They aren't doing so because the show now is heavily all about the lovin', I assure you. It isn't. Just as we'd serve our mates and the show by reaching out to help New Series fans struggling to come to terms with how familiar but different the Classic series is to their eyes, I think we can and should try to help out Classics fans bridge the gap with what is currently made for our enjoyment today with what they remember it used to be like. There's a lot of middle ground here, fertile with opportunities for sharing insights the other may lack and which by making a little effort in the spirit of friendship, as this place runs on, can help to make fandom a much better place for everyone. As I've mentioned before, we're all the same. Even us oddballs who grew up Classic and have broadened their horizons to embrace and like the best of the New Series, of which Series 8 and Capaldi offer very definite signs of a true return to greatness in 2015! |
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Post by mattplace on Nov 13, 2014 8:59:00 GMT
Paul... when "Missy" floated in like Mary Poppins.. it officially stopped being the Dr who that I grew up loving... it was into Farce territory.
I loathed Matt Smith's era, he is my 2nd least favorite Dr (Pertwee is last). I think he suffered from the most inane storylines through his seasons though, with better material he could have been great, but once again the writers seemed more interested in telling Amy and Rory and Clara's story.... oh and how could I forget the overuse of River Song... Loved her in the "library" episodes.. everything after that was horrendous.
I will always watch it, and I will always try to enjoy it, but the fact that casual fans are bored, does not bode well for longevity.
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Post by Tony Ingram on Nov 13, 2014 9:20:57 GMT
Paul... when "Missy" floated in like Mary Poppins.. it officially stopped being the Dr who that I grew up loving... it was into Farce territory. I loathed Matt Smith's era, he is my 2nd least favorite Dr (Pertwee is last). I think he suffered from the most inane storylines through his seasons though, with better material he could have been great, but once again the writers seemed more interested in telling Amy and Rory and Clara's story.... oh and how could I forget the overuse of River Song... Loved her in the "library" episodes.. everything after that was horrendous. I will always watch it, and I will always try to enjoy it, but the fact that casual fans are bored, does not bode well for longevity. Who says that casual fans are bored? Several friends and colleagues of mine watch it regularly and still seem to be thoroughly enjoying it most of the time. And as for Matt Smith's era having "inane storylines", I think that, on the contrary, he had some of the most pleasantly complex, layered and thought provoking storylines in the history of the programme. He's now my second favourite Doctor (after Tom). |
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Post by mattplace on Nov 13, 2014 9:35:43 GMT
I said it a few posts ago., I have a few friends who are "casual' viewers.. and all of them have basically not enjoyed it... and 1 said what was the point of the whole season...
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Post by Tony Ingram on Nov 13, 2014 9:40:10 GMT
I said it a few posts ago., I have a few friends who are "casual' viewers.. and all of them have basically not enjoyed it... and 1 said what was the point of the whole season... All that basically proves is that you have friends who broadly speaking share the same tastes as you, which is hardly surprising since people with similar tastes tend to gravitate towards each other. If you don't like the current style of the show, it's not that startling that you have friends who don't, either. I do like it, and equally unsurprisingly, so do most of my friends. Ultimately, anecdotal evidence is pretty much worthless either way. But the viewing figures are still consistently high here (despite what some seem to believe) and the series is growing in popularity in foreign markets. I don't think its future is really in doubt. |
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Post by mattplace on Nov 13, 2014 11:54:22 GMT
Thats probably true Tony, i'm not here to argue the point. I hope it goes for years but in my opinion its time for a regeneration of the production team.
I did not enjoy this season,I feel it has lost some traditional"whoness".
I am glad you enjoyed it and i hope its around for years to come.. for me.. it is no longer the show i love.. or even the show that i fell back in love with in 2005
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 13:23:36 GMT
Definitely it feels that Moffatt has been in charge long enough now and new blood / fresh ideas are needed to keep the programme healthy. That's despite my quite liking the recently ended series. It would be the best point for him to go though, ending on a high note.
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Post by Paul McDermott on Nov 13, 2014 13:44:32 GMT
Paul... when "Missy" floated in like Mary Poppins.. it officially stopped being the Dr who that I grew up loving... it was into Farce territory. I loathed Matt Smith's era, he is my 2nd least favorite Dr (Pertwee is last). I think he suffered from the most inane storylines through his seasons though, with better material he could have been great, but once again the writers seemed more interested in telling Amy and Rory and Clara's story.... oh and how could I forget the overuse of River Song... Loved her in the "library" episodes.. everything after that was horrendous. I will always watch it, and I will always try to enjoy it, but the fact that casual fans are bored, does not bode well for longevity. Hey Matt, I don't know the ratings - but I did read that (ahead of next week's consolidated figures that accounts for iPlayer) last week's ep was the highest watched since Deep Breath and an increase on Dark Water. And I think those who tuned in got a hell of a treat for doing so - and crucially, I think Moffat has wisely decided to make the series closer and eps in general in 8 a little more accessible for casual audiences who maybe can't get to see every ep, or aren't yet sure it's for them. And just maybe more of them are now going to want to stick around at Christmas and into Series 9! I would say though that if you're willing to watch even if you can't stand it and will watch it no matter what, it's hard to see yourself as a casual viewer. (Not saying you typify yourself that way, any more than I or others do.) I mean, would casuals post here? Or even read here? If so, how do! Set a spell, take your shoes off! All newcomers welcome! If you really don't hold with what the show is like at present, adding a boost to support figures by watching it seems an odd way to signal a desire for change. None of us can do anything about the show here, so far as I know.  So are you saying that gags are only allowed if non-evil characters do them? The Mistress has a sense of style, and she's perfectly aware - as her old sparring partner is - of Earth's cultural forms, admittedly to varying degrees. If her impish sense of making an entrance and once again commanding attention and showing off her supreme over-confidence can't be the time for a laugh now and then, it'll look a bit too po-faced. It's hardly credible to suggest it undermines her presence, her villainy. Look at what she got away with! Nor that the show is suddenly made less interesting because there's a comedic touch now and then. This was a pretty grim story, and a little levity is just good sense. Say something nice! Yeah, I got a bit fed up with River too. I thought she was just fine in Series 5. Series 6 was just too much of her for me, and I think after Amy and Rory got wound up, she's unlikely to be back much again if at all. We know her story's end, we saw it with Tennant. If she does get a return engagement, I'd expect it'd be low key and different to how she was used in the Smith era, as things are just a bit different now, in lead and in tone. Series 6 wasn't all bad, by no means. The two-part opener has some really terrific stuff. I thought The Doctor's Wife was nicely done, and partly reminded me of a Lexx ep for some reason. The scrap metal girders were very '96 I thought! The Rebel Flesh and The Almost People would have worked better for me as a single parter, tightened up. I really quite liked the look, feel and story of The Girl Who Waited. The others were not quite as much to my liking, although I could see some bits I could find worthwhile. Series 7 I'm not done with yet, but The Power Of Three was very satisfactory, as was Cold War. The less clingy nature of the series arc thread plot was a welcome tweak to the existing model, and one I'm glad to see has been kept into Series 8. It makes things a little less forbidding to casuals and new viewers, and more fresh. What’s the point of the current series? Same as it ever was. Adventures in space and time. Familiar but different. More than just fun and games, something special that appeals to all ages. Accept no substitute! Exactly what we need, exactly what we want. Just not necessarily in a way that you will expect - and that’s not a bad thing, to my mind! |
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Post by Paul McDermott on Nov 13, 2014 14:12:39 GMT
Definitely it feels that Moffatt has been in charge long enough now and new blood / fresh ideas are needed to keep the programme healthy. That's despite my quite liking the recently ended series. It would be the best point for him to go though, ending on a high note. Don't you think he's been providing them though, Laurence? I mean, compare 5 to 8 and look at the divergence. To me, it looks like, if anything, he's been slowly drifting from the established brush strokes that typified RTD's time in charge, at a pace that won't scare away too many too fast, and hopefully encourage more of us to check it out - first-timers or lapsed fans alike. I'm sure he could make it more popular, and I'm sure it'd likely lose a little in the translation. I think the idea of Doctor Who being high quality and true to itself but ever so slightly less popular than if the latter was the most important consideration is the right choice to make. What we've seen in Series 8 is very positive, very encouraging, but I don't know that Moffat's showing signs of running on empty. I don't recall seeing a story like Flatline before. Or the two parter that wrapped the Series. Or a Doctor who's portrayed quite this way. Moffat's bringing a level of experience, skill and influence that Doctor Who would be poorer for the lack of. And I'm not yet sure there's anything broken that needs fixing. If his heart isn't in it, for whatever reason, that's one thing. But the work doesn't really suggest that to me. At some point, I expect he'll know when he wants to consider his position. And he's not a dope - he's aware (as his bosses are) that a smooth transition to the next Doctor Who show runner isn't an optional extra - it's mandatory. It's got to be done in a way that brings the best ROI, and that means someone as safe and as capable as Moffat. As hard as casting the lead, I'd say! But he's done well with that, so I reckon we'll be okay when it comes! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 14:59:01 GMT
I think anyone running the show as long as he has needs to pass it on. He's presided over the whole of one entire Doctor's reign and now moving into another - that's really enough. Just because he's produced an effective series doesn't mean he should carry on. I always believe that people should quit while they're ahead, rather than wait until they go stale (and he will).
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Post by George D on Nov 13, 2014 15:46:00 GMT
laurence. i agree .. unfortunately, some people dont want to give up their job.
in the old days, a doctor would last many producers who added their insight to a character. since jnt, producers felt that they would rather restart the series with a new acting team and a new format than give up their job. which may not be what is best for a series.
Paul, if he's going the right direction than great. Unfortunately, Im not a fan of many things he did with the anniversary special (which I saw) also, im not overjoyed what he did with the master either. which could be something even rtd has not done.
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