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Post by John Green on Nov 8, 2013 0:09:38 GMT
I should know this,but was it called the Polytechnic at the time?Was it the place at East Park Terrace? It was the 'Southampton College of Technology' - at East Park Terrace. I got my HND there. Thanks,Peter.I remember the place from the late 70s. This is the BFI Database entry for Freewheelers: ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/series/27534 I could not,and cannot get anything to come up on Unionsearch.Brilliant of Ray to find the film inserts.Does this mean that not everything at say,Wessex,is on Unionsearch? Any chance that the specific titles listed on the Database are held anywhere within the system?
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Post by Ian Wegg on Nov 8, 2013 9:21:56 GMT
The Freewheelers inserts are within a large, eclectic, collection of material lodged by Mike Womersley. It is catalogued as " AV763 Hampshire Films c1926-1981" with this description: Cinefilm (16mm): Southern TV news item concerning its 10th anniversary in Nov 1968, showing ten year old Heather Blachford looking around Southampton; amateur film by unknown cameraman in c1926, showing various family scenes, swimming baths, and localities like Southsea and Winchester briefly; Southern TV and TVS documentaries, drama telerecordings and inserts,and 'Day By Day' news items, 1958-1981; 'Child Portrait Photographer' (Day By Day item, 1966); Dick Sheppard, stuntman (1970s); Rod Editing.
Cinefilms (8mm): amateur film of French and Belgian holidays by car in the 1950s.
Video Tape (VHS): copy of amateur films about Botley in the 1930s.
Extent: 96 reels; 1 tapeThe top level collection can be found here: AV763The components can be found by clicking the Show the rest of this collection and from there you can access each of the 21 subcomponents, many of which are further divided. Freewheelers are in AV763/13 through to AV763/20 Other Southern material includes AV763/24 Letters From The Dead, AV763/25 Rogues Rock (neither of which are missing). AV763/32 The Beating Heart and AV763/40 The Last Invasion also look interesting. I don't know how unionsearch links to Wessex but I guess it doesn't drill deeply enough into the structure. You notice there is no mention of Freewheelers in the collection description. ~iw
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Post by John Green on Nov 8, 2013 9:41:36 GMT
Thanks,Ian.There's no sign of the individual episode or story titles on Unionsearch either,so more cudos to Ray for the find.
I could do the work,but I suspect you already know,how do the episodes on the BFI Database relate to known survivals? I can see,for instance that 'Pipeline' is missing...
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Nov 8, 2013 20:01:53 GMT
Well the BFI list is interesting. If the entries are accurate they appear to have the last two episodes of Season 5 - `Pipeline' and `The Answer'. I was under the impression nothing from that season had survived. Then again I didn't know about the inserts for the third and fourth seasons either...........
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Post by John Green on Nov 8, 2013 20:18:11 GMT
Well the BFI list is interesting. If the entries are accurate they appear to have the last two episodes of Season 5 - `Pipeline' and `The Answer'. I was under the impression nothing from that season had survived. Then again I didn't know about the inserts for the third and fourth seasons either........... Well,they often list things they haven't got... At least they don't list EVERY episode,which is often a very bad sign... I always feel a bit hopeful when they got scrappy listings,though I don't know why.It usually doesn't mean much!
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Post by John Green on Nov 9, 2013 12:13:20 GMT
The Freewheelers inserts are within a large, eclectic, collection of material lodged by Mike Womersley. It is catalogued as " AV763 Hampshire Films c1926-1981" with this description: Cinefilm (16mm): Southern TV news item concerning its 10th anniversary in Nov 1968, showing ten year old Heather Blachford looking around Southampton; amateur film by unknown cameraman in c1926, showing various family scenes, swimming baths, and localities like Southsea and Winchester briefly; Southern TV and TVS documentaries, drama telerecordings and inserts,and 'Day By Day' news items, 1958-1981; 'Child Portrait Photographer' (Day By Day item, 1966); Dick Sheppard, stuntman (1970s); Rod Editing.
Cinefilms (8mm): amateur film of French and Belgian holidays by car in the 1950s.
Video Tape (VHS): copy of amateur films about Botley in the 1930s.
Extent: 96 reels; 1 tapeThe top level collection can be found here: AV763The components can be found by clicking the Show the rest of this collection and from there you can access each of the 21 subcomponents, many of which are further divided. Freewheelers are in AV763/13 through to AV763/20 Other Southern material includes AV763/24 Letters From The Dead, AV763/25 Rogues Rock (neither of which are missing). AV763/32 The Beating Heart and AV763/40 The Last Invasion also look interesting. I don't know how unionsearch links to Wessex but I guess it doesn't drill deeply enough into the structure. You notice there is no mention of Freewheelers in the collection description. ~iw Thanks,Ian.Very interesting. Those kind people at the Mausoleum Club have provided this: www.mausoleumclubforum.org.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1055&p=11404#p11404 on 'The Last Invasion' ,though I've got no idea of its status.
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Post by Simon Winters on Nov 13, 2013 13:16:37 GMT
Just to report that this entire collection of material from Mike Womersley at Wessex was first flagged up by me about 4 years ago. I think a lot of it appeared on the Kaleidoscope 'finds list' for the year. I know that Kaleidoscope and the BFI aquired a set of much of it on dvd at the time, and some of it has been shown at Kaleidoscope events with permission from the copytight holders - some is ITV copyright and some is Renown copyright.
So, this material is all safely stored and catalogued, and not a 'new find'.
Thanks of course all goes to Mike Womersley who saved a great amount of b/w Soutern films and film inserts, and donated the whole lot to ITV, who have deposited for safe keeping at Wessex.
The Last Invasion survives as a full episode within this collection. It's a drama-documentary, and a good quality production. One odd thing about it is that the end credits music is incredibly similar to the Catweazle theme which was composed just a few years later, and Geoffrey Bayldon stars in The Last Invasion!
Southern made another series on the same theme in the late 1970s called Invasion Road, and I managed to recover a copy of this from an off-air betamax tape, and got a copy of this to Kaleidoscope too.
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Post by Rob Moss on Nov 13, 2013 14:49:40 GMT
Hi Simon,
In fact, I contacted Mike Womersley in 2001 and arranged for a transfer of some of Mike's Freewheelers prints which were screened at (I think) the K2K-1 event. I'm glad that the rest of his films have been properly preserved since then!
R
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Post by John Green on Nov 13, 2013 16:05:42 GMT
Just to report that this entire collection of material from Mike Womersley at Wessex was first flagged up by me about 4 years ago. I think a lot of it appeared on the Kaleidoscope 'finds list' for the year. I know that Kaleidoscope and the BFI aquired a set of much of it on dvd at the time, and some of it has been shown at Kaleidoscope events with permission from the copytight holders - some is ITV copyright and some is Renown copyright. So, this material is all safely stored and catalogued, and not a 'new find'. Thanks of course all goes to Mike Womersley who saved a great amount of b/w Soutern films and film inserts, and donated the whole lot to ITV, who have deposited for safe keeping at Wessex. The Last Invasion survives as a full episode within this collection. It's a drama-documentary, and a good quality production. One odd thing about it is that the end credits music is incredibly similar to the Catweazle theme which was composed just a few years later, and Geoffrey Bayldon stars in The Last Invasion! Southern made another series on the same theme in the late 1970s called Invasion Road, and I managed to recover a copy of this from an off-air betamax tape, and got a copy of this to Kaleidoscope too. Thanks,Simon.Very interesting. Isn't Catweazle actually running away from Norman soldiers in the first episode? Another co-incidence. Hopefullythe 'Freewheelers' will be listed as "film inserts exist" soon.They sound very useful.
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Post by Simon Winters on Nov 13, 2013 16:35:40 GMT
Just to add to Rob's comment - yes, I made that same point on Mausoleum Club today but forgot to mention it on here - the Freewheelers transfers and a few other bits of material from Mike W were transferred for Kaleidoscope many years ago (and were also used in the lookback series Southern Gold in 1993/4).
What was flagged up at Wessex 4 years ago is the complete Mike W collection.
Sorry I forgot to mention the efforts of you and Kaleidoscope back in 2001!
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Post by Patrick Coles on Nov 13, 2013 22:15:53 GMT
So am I right in thinking that season one (b/w) survives intact, plus the colour seasons six (out on DVD), seven & eight and only 2 episodes of season five ?
hopefully then seasons one, seven, & eight might one day also get a DVD release too....?
is everything else (episode wise) 'missing'...?
it's not a show you hear that much about unlike say 'Doctor Who' , 'The Tomorrow People' etc presumably as it was action/adventure rather than Sci Fi....
inspired by this thread I've ordered the DVD of season six & can't wait to see 'Freewheelers' again after all these years...
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Post by John Green on Nov 13, 2013 22:30:25 GMT
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Post by Ian Wegg on Nov 13, 2013 22:35:39 GMT
Lostshows is incorrect, series 7 exists complete.
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Post by John Green on Nov 14, 2013 10:37:38 GMT
Lostshows is incorrect, series 7 exists complete. Wonderful.
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Post by Simon Winters on Nov 14, 2013 11:52:13 GMT
Actually no, one episode from series 7 is currently missing, and several episodes from series 8 are currently missing. This is preventing the release of both series. Lostshows is correct.
Only off-airs from the 1980s Childrens' Channel repeats exist for these lost epsidoes, plus some film inserts at Wessex. The 2" masters were lost some time in the past 15 years or so.
There is a possibility that Simply/Renown may issues a dvd release of series 7 & 8 using the existing masters plus off-airs cleaned-up. Network have done this before, so it's do-able.
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