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Post by James Anderson on Oct 20, 2013 8:45:07 GMT
The trailer for web of fear and enemy of the world are in HD and was wondring if any classic story's might hit blu ray in the future ?
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Post by John Wall on Oct 20, 2013 8:48:28 GMT
The trailer for web of fear and enemy of the world are in HD and was wondring if any classic story's might hit blu ray in the future ? Spearhead from Space.....
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Post by Rob Moss on Oct 20, 2013 9:15:33 GMT
Other than Spearhead, no other classic Dr Who stories could be released in HD, because everything else is locked in to 405- or 625-line video source. At best, we could in theory get a piebald release where the SD studio footage has been upscaled and edited together with HD transfers of existing location film, but I'd be surprised if this ever happened, because the SD studio footage would stand out too much. There are a few such stories where all the film inserts exist, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Post by Paul McDermott on Oct 20, 2013 9:18:25 GMT
Other than Spearhead, no other classic Dr Who stories could be released in HD, because everything else is locked in to 405- or 625-line video source. At best, we could in theory get a piebald release where the SD studio footage has been upscaled and edited together with HD transfers of existing location film, but I'd be surprised if this ever happened, because the SD studio footage would stand out too much. There are a few such stories where all the film inserts exist, but I wouldn't hold my breath. How about the '96 McCoy/McGann telemovie, Rob? Same deal there, too? Of course, providing that it's available, a co-pro might have different archival and financial considerations compared to the current and previous era of Doctor Who.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Oct 20, 2013 9:25:37 GMT
The TVM is difficult because there was never a completed film in 35mm that could be scanned in HD.
First problem is that no one is entirely sure if all the filmed assets still survive and if they do, where they actually are.
Secondly, the film was edited on video so you'd then have to scan all of the assets in HD and then try to find the various takes used that make up the TVM in order to recreate the film. After that, you'd then have to remake all the effects from scratch, as they were done on video (as per Star Trek:TNG).
In other words, *if* the original film assets survive, it could be done, but to be honest, the cost in time and money would far outstrip the return gained by doing so.
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Post by Paul McDermott on Oct 20, 2013 9:29:54 GMT
Thanks for that clue-in Richard! So basically, a very iffy proposition and a blessed nuisance with a hefty price tag even if all the ducks were lined up in a row. Yeah, I can see now how the recent re-release could likely wind up being about as good as it gets.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Oct 20, 2013 9:41:42 GMT
I think the forthcoming New Series set, featuring upscales of Series 1-4 and The Next Doctor, plus true HD discs of the Specials and Series 5-7, signals that upscaled Blu-ray season sets for classic Who will most likely follow. Whether there's any real point to doing them is debatable, of course.
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Post by grantgoodman on Oct 20, 2013 15:05:14 GMT
I think the only advantage of putting classic Who on Blu ray is that you can include a lot more episodes on a disc in standard definition.
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Post by simonashby on Oct 20, 2013 16:13:58 GMT
The trailer for web of fear and enemy of the world are in HD and was wondring if any classic story's might hit blu ray in the future ? The footage in the trailer isn't HD though. It's just not possible. The format it was exported (and presented) in is HD. Two different things.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Oct 20, 2013 19:12:23 GMT
The TVM is difficult because there was never a completed film in 35mm that could be scanned in HD. First problem is that no one is entirely sure if all the filmed assets still survive and if they do, where they actually are. Secondly, the film was edited on video so you'd then have to scan all of the assets in HD and then try to find the various takes used that make up the TVM in order to recreate the film. After that, you'd then have to remake all the effects from scratch, as they were done on video (as per Star Trek:TNG). In other words, *if* the original film assets survive, it could be done, but to be honest, the cost in time and money would far outstrip the return gained by doing so. Hi Richard,just thought I'd ask a question.I know that Web of Fear is your personal favourite story ( I was reading your review of the story from the 2nd Dr. Special from would you believe 10 years ago?).How do you feel about it now that it's been recovered and have you watched all the episodes on itunes?You must have been over the moon when it was announced that it had been found,and when can we expect a 4th edition of your wonderful magazine,Nothing at the end of the Lane?I feel that Philip Morris' finds must have pushed Dr.Who restoration and research to new levels and possibilities!
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Oct 20, 2013 19:32:37 GMT
Other than Spearhead, no other classic Dr Who stories could be released in HD, because everything else is locked in to 405- or 625-line video source. In North America DVDs are only 480 lines, so HD would be a picture upgrade - and would also offer a better picture, with better compression than was around when they invented DVDs.
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Post by garysrothwellx on Oct 20, 2013 22:29:52 GMT
I think Blu-Ray releases are a certainty - whether there is an increase in picture quality or not. Certainly the idea of maybe having a whole season on a single box set of a few discs could be attractive.
Main reason though will be commercial viability, plain and simple. If the BBC think enough people will buy on Blu-Ray, then they'll be released. Same as music re-issues. The Beatles don't get released on every new format out of the kindness of everyone's heart - its to make more money!
That being said, I bought the Beatles complete Mono on CD a couple of years back, and would probably buy a complete Dr Who Blu-Ray set secure in the knowledge that even if I really didnt need to, I really wanted to!!
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Post by John Wall on Oct 20, 2013 22:32:28 GMT
I replaced a lot of VHS with DVDs - and gained lots of shelf space
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Post by Alan Hayes on Oct 20, 2013 22:34:59 GMT
The trouble is, the manner of Spearhead from Space's Blu-ray release has to be seen as a statement of intent - and that is that any Blu-ray releases of the classic series will be designed as companions to the DVD releases so as not to render them obsolete as commercial products. So, we'll probably see exclusive content on the Blu-ray releases (if they indeed happen) and existing extras not being ported across.
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Post by garysrothwellx on Oct 20, 2013 22:38:47 GMT
The equivalent of a "20th Anniversary" CD re-issue with a "new" track.....
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