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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 14, 2013 18:44:42 GMT
With the runaway success of Veronica Mars on Kickstarter this week, do you think it won't be long before we see a dr who project for missing episodes? It would surely get enough funding. Of course, the rights come into it obviously  |
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Post by simonashby on Mar 14, 2013 19:11:21 GMT
Of course, the rights come into it obviously ...and that's why it won't happen! |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 14, 2013 20:05:29 GMT
Of course, the rights come into it obviously ...and that's why it won't happen! Unless the BBC do it. |
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Post by simonashby on Mar 15, 2013 17:03:24 GMT
Which they won't. It's not there for large organisations. It's for small startups and individuals who can't get funding through traditional routes. Whilst I don't suppose there's anything stopping them as such, I don't think we need to list the reasons why an organisation like the BBC wouldn't even consider the idea. |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Mar 15, 2013 22:19:53 GMT
It's just interesting how the Veronica Mars thing worked; the Kickstarter project was spearheaded by creator Rob Thomas and yet the rights are still owned by the CW. How does that work...?
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Post by dennywilson on Mar 16, 2013 2:56:17 GMT
It's just interesting how the Veronica Mars thing worked; the Kickstarter project was spearheaded by creator Rob Thomas and yet the rights are still owned by the CW. How does that work...? The rights are owned by the studio, Warner Brothers - Thomas went to them and proposed this idea - since they had nothing to lose, they worked with him on it. Warners is handling distribution of the finished project digitally and limited theatrical release. |
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Post by Craig Robins on Mar 16, 2013 9:26:47 GMT
I consider there is definitely an opportunity here. Anything to do with Classic Who has a ready made outlet on DVD, especially now that Dan Hall is looking for ways of extending the range. At the recent Gallifrey One convention, Dan asked the audience if they would buy DVDs of orphaned episodes if they were released, along with a wealth of extras that typically accompany special editions. The response was overwhelming positive, so I have no little doubt he is now seriously exploring this.
If he were to be offered the opportunity of having professionally recreated episodes at zero cost to him, either as animation or as live action, I'm sure he would jump at the chance, as long as they were of decent quality. I don't think rights would be an issue as 2entertain would surely been keen to clear them, if everything else was essentially paid for.
As for costs, I recently worked on a feature film that cost a fraction of the $2 million that was apparently necessary for Veronica Mars. What's more, it had an extremely respectable cast, so it can certainly be done. It's really only when Hollywood studios get involved that costs spiral ridiculously.
I'm kind of surprised that Ian Levine hasn't tried live action instead of animation. It's actually a lot easier than animation to do well. Maybe it comes down to a lack of contacts in TV/Film production?
Personally, I'd love to take on a live action project. If someone else could handle the fundraising side, I'd definitely be up for it.
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Post by Greg H on Mar 16, 2013 10:26:32 GMT
I am certain Levine would have the cash to dabble in a live action remake if he wished to. There might be some more fundamental reason for his opting to self fund animations over a team of actors though, I don't know.
Would 2Entertain be all that interested in fan funded animations/ remakes? Haven't they turned something like that down already?
I am all for fan projects, it is fun to watch them on Youtube from time to time; I just don't know how interested the BBC would be unless someone convinces Spielberg or Peter Jackson to direct them!
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Post by Charles Daniels on Mar 16, 2013 10:53:37 GMT
I am certain Levine would have the cash to dabble in a live action remake if he wished to. There might be some more fundamental reason for his opting to self fund animations over a team of actors though, I don't know. Would 2Entertain be all that interested in fan funded animations/ remakes? Haven't they turned something like that down already? I am all for fan projects, it is fun to watch them on Youtube from time to time; I just don't know how interested the BBC would be unless someone convinces Spielberg or Peter Jackson to direct them! The Mission to the Unknown animation is actually better than stuff they've already released on DVD. I would say it beats the Reign of Terror animation into a cocked hat, for instance. |
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Post by Greg H on Mar 16, 2013 11:24:00 GMT
Fair enough, I haven't seen it. I have no doubt that Levine can afford a decent animator Perhaps they will include it as an extra on something unless there is some other factor stopping them? I really don't have any info on this. |
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Post by Craig Robins on Mar 16, 2013 11:49:39 GMT
If you present it to Dan Hall as a fan project, it will be viewed as just that. That is the wrong way to go about it. It has to be put forward as a professionally produced project. And you wouldn't have to sell the idea to 2entertain, just Dan.
Chris Chapman is a perfect example of the way to go about it. While he is undoubtedly a massive fan, he is first and foremost a bona fide producer/director with a proven track record, so when he approached Dan with a view to providing extras for the range, he had credibility.
As for me, I have worked in the TV/Film industry for over 30 years and have produced DVDs under license from 2entertain. And oddly enough, they were of Steven Moffat series so he would be able to vouch for me too!
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Post by Richard Tipple on Mar 16, 2013 11:59:50 GMT
Craig, I'm a producer myself, currently working as a Production Manager in the corporate sector. You are of course 100% right about this not being approached as a 'fan project'. It'd have to be costed up and planned to the nth degree and I couldn't imagine the budgets being raised. I don't think it's viable for the time being.
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Post by Craig Robins on Mar 16, 2013 13:40:36 GMT
I was also told that releasing Joking Apart on DVD couldn't be done... But I bought the rights, restored the video, produced multiple extras and made a success of it.
A few years back, a 70 minute British film called "Following" was made for less than £10,000. You'd never guess - it's a quality film. It happened because the unknown director had the vision and determination to make it and keveryone was committed to it. And boy did it pay off. Now better known for films such as Momento, Inception and The Dark Knight Rises, Christopher Nolan is today one of Hollywood's hottest properties.
It's amazing what can be done if you are determined enough.
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