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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 21:45:28 GMT
Was looking through youtube and a small clip from a German show claimed to be missing top of the pops footage. Sorry if this has ready been discussed before. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jdabWjDzBc |
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Post by nicadare on Nov 16, 2012 22:24:32 GMT
Looks like TOTP, would it be from one of Lulu's tapes as she appeared on this show?
Then again ZDF could have a few Ampex 2" copies in their vaults, nothing would surprise me ;D
NOVEMBER 1969:
6-11-69: Presenter: Pete Murray (Wiped)
(1) THE ARCHIES – Sugar Sugar (and charts)
(NEW) LULU – Oh Me Oh My (I’m A Fool For You Baby)
(18) THE PLASTIC ONO BAND – Cold Turkey (video)
(19) JETHRO TULL – Sweet Dream
(NEW) ARTHUR CONLEY – Star Review
(13) THE TREMELOES – (Call Me) Number One ®
(1) THE ARCHIES – Sugar Sugar (video)
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Post by Ant Harvison - WIPED NEWS on Nov 16, 2012 22:31:37 GMT
This clip was discussed back in 2009: missingepisodes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=totp&action=display&thread=4880&page=4Quote from forum member John Glascock: "Now I know more details about the youtube clip: It's a tv report about the german tour 1999 (5 min). Here the exact contents: - Ian & Martin jaming "Bourèe" backstage - interviews with Ian & Martin backstage - Paris 1975 clip - "Sweet Dream" 1969 clip - "For A 1000 Mothers" live clip Hamburg 2-June-1999 - the offer to win tickets for the concert in Magdeburg 23-June-1999. Broadcast on MDR (eastern german tv station) and was called "Artour", date is between the gig in Hamburg 2.6. and Magdeburg 23.6.99, probable 10.6.99. Anybody out there with contacts to " MDR "!?" I don't know if this lead was ever followed up. Anyone speak German and want to get in touch? Ant Harvison - Wiped News |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2012 18:50:56 GMT
Yes, there's a thread discussing this clip on here from some time ago.
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Post by James C on Oct 20, 2014 20:02:17 GMT
Just found this. Seems to be a bit more of the same performance. Maybe the whole thing exists. youtu.be/qypdHw4qaE0 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:32:37 GMT
Interesting. The clip linked to at the top of the thread follows on from the point where the one above ends! Put together they make a nice sequence.
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Post by James C on Oct 20, 2014 21:59:42 GMT
The whole performance is in circulation apparently.
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Post by Liam Joseph on Oct 21, 2014 7:22:13 GMT
The whole performance is in circulation apparently. One of Tull's best tracks, it would be great if this did exist in full. |
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Post by Stephen Doran on Oct 23, 2014 9:34:28 GMT
Alan Freeman played o me o my by lulu just before the 5.30 news one sunday ive been trying for years to date the show and recall other records from 5-5.50 approx,
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Post by Oliver Roemer on Oct 23, 2014 14:52:10 GMT
I did a short research a few years back and called the German TV station MDR who did the report this clip was comming from in 1999. They were very friendly and tried to help me, but the original source was unknown to them. All they could tell me was that, according to their shotlist, the source was "EMI Music", so they probably got the material from Jethro Tull's record label Chrysalis Records which was owned and distributed by EMI at that time and is now part of Warner Music Group. Maybe someone in the company is still sitting on the clip without knowing it is missing from TOTP.
I did phone with a Mrs. Freudenberg at MDR Television from the programme team of "Artour" at the time and she got out the old cutting list details for me from the broadcast of 10/06/1999.
Unfortunately, the only main provider for the archive material used in the show in 1999, seemed to be the listed record company EMI.
Regards
Oliver
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Post by markboulton on Oct 23, 2014 17:36:21 GMT
Hmmm.... Sounds to me like the compiler of the returns sheet simply looking up who the copyright holder of the RECORD is and extrapolating it to the video clip. Compounded by the very likely scenario that as I've often stated over the years, I'm convinced that EMI (and other major record companies) routinely recorded band performances from TV shows onto pro or semi-pro formats and filed them away in tunnels under Goodge Street along with their multi track masters. With the mists of time fogging the MIDSTS of time, I can well imagine a clip from a BBC show, that they themselves can no longer find, may end up becoming attributed to the record company only because the record company have the only copy and no-one at the BBC is bothered to watch it and work out if it's their IP. Fact is, so few people in the biz know the background to the assets they acquire... Or even the assets they should be protecting..especially if they don't KNOW they're their assets...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 18:57:02 GMT
Why do I get the impression that so many of the positions in record companies that really count are populated by bean counting philistines and not by people who CARE???
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Post by williammcgregor on Oct 23, 2014 20:10:45 GMT
Why do I get the impression that so many of the positions in record companies that really count are populated by bean counting philistines and not by people who CARE??? Likewise with the people in charge at the football team I support....sorry for going off topic, could'nt resist. |
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Post by Oliver Roemer on Nov 27, 2014 9:43:46 GMT
This clip could exist in full at WDR Television archive in Cologne, Germany, (part of the ARD Broadcast Union) as an insert for the show "Hits-A-Go Go", which they co-produced together with with the Swiss Television SRG at the time. A lot of the HAGG-shows didn't exist anymore due to a water damage at the swiss archives, but a great bunch of performances are still stored in Germany, so who knows. Besides, MDR Television told me at the time in 2012, that they aquired the clip for the report in 1999 from their sister ARD broadcasting station WDR in Cologne, so maybe the full clip used for the documentary shown in the report is still there.
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