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Post by Peter Stirling on Mar 18, 2019 17:42:26 GMT
Blimey! cheers. When Time Life released the series in the US, IIRC they said they could not find a colour version ...perhaps they didn't look for a Pal version ..or something? ..but this was sometime ago |
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Post by petercheck on Mar 18, 2019 17:53:45 GMT
I wouldn't take too much notice of Time Life. They released a Jerry Lee Lewis compilation DVD a few years back, and their version of the 1964 Granada TV show ('Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On') was appalling, yet when I pointed this out they claimed they used the master.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Mar 18, 2019 18:07:11 GMT
I wouldn't take too much notice of Time Life. They released a Jerry Lee Lewis compilation DVD a few years back, and their version of the 1964 Granada TV show ('Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On') was appalling, yet when I pointed this out they claimed they used the master. I recall when it was re shown in the 70s as part of 'Don't Stop the Rock' it was rather wobbly for a bit, but otherwise ok..presumably this was a 405 to 625 conversion? and what they now claim to be a master? ..but should be no problem for 21st Century restoration techniques. |
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Post by petercheck on Mar 18, 2019 18:46:57 GMT
I wouldn't take too much notice of Time Life. They released a Jerry Lee Lewis compilation DVD a few years back, and their version of the 1964 Granada TV show ('Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On') was appalling, yet when I pointed this out they claimed they used the master. I recall when it was re shown in the 70s as part of 'Don't Stop the Rock' it was rather wobbly for a bit, but otherwise ok..presumably this was a 405 to 625 conversion? and what they now claim to be a master? ..but should be no problem for 21st Century restoration techniques. Their "master" is an NTSC version that runs slightly below pitch, and looks rather blurred and grainy. It certainly survives in better quality, as proven by the brief clips in this 1991 documentary:
www.amazon.co.uk/Jerry-Lee-Lewis-Story-Rock/dp/B00008AWSW
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Post by paul carney on Mar 18, 2019 21:00:34 GMT
Great performance by Arthur Brown with Carl Palmer sporting a page boy haircut.Not sure what the mums and dads in Tom's fan base would have made of it.
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Post by petercheck on Mar 18, 2019 22:36:34 GMT
Great performance by Arthur Brown with Carl Palmer sporting a page boy haircut.Not sure what the mums and dads in Tom's fan base would have made of it. To be fair on Tom, he was often surprisingly adventurous when choosing guests for the show. Janis Joplin, The Who, Wilson Pickett, Julie Driscoll, Joe Cocker, CSN&Y, Little Richard, the Moody Blues ... none of these were exactly easy listening. |
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Post by Jeff Leach on Mar 19, 2019 18:54:12 GMT
It's a pity that the show hasn't had a proper release over here. I believe Tom himself owns the rights for the UK and with him enjoying a bit of a renaissance via The Voice and has Peter said the calibre of the guest's ( Cher, Ella Fitzgerald,Tony Bennett for example) I'm sure there would be a market for it.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Mar 19, 2019 21:04:52 GMT
It's a pity that the show hasn't had a proper release over here. I believe Tom himself owns the rights for the UK and with him enjoying a bit of a renaissance via The Voice and has Peter said the calibre of the guest's ( Cher, Ella Fitzgerald,Tony Bennett for example) I'm sure there would be a market for it. If Talking Pictures TV put it on a Saturday night, I reckon they would have massive hit. |
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Post by stevej on Mar 19, 2019 21:08:48 GMT
I agree with Jeff, it would certainly make an absolute must-have dvd set for a lot of us, assuming the shows were presented complete. The musical guest list is as diverse as they come and throws up some real surprises. That Arthur Brown performance is something else! The staging for the series is always impressive with some superb set designs and lighting effects which certainly gave owners of colour televisions good value for money. I'm always blown away by Jack Parnell's orchestrations, which are sublime. I'd love to know who his bass player was! Another recent upload here with Tom and Cher. Where are these all coming from?! www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzGWI2zjLt8 |
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Post by Peter Stirling on Mar 20, 2019 0:25:46 GMT
Presumbly these are the NTSC and PAL versions..notice background comes out as a different colour although they look the same set
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Mar 20, 2019 10:15:19 GMT
I had a meeting with Mark , Tom's son and manager, a few years back and this series was touched upon - the holdings are basically a mess and they would love to get them all together. What the above 2 vids also prove is that each show was shot with NTSC & PAL cameras next to each other so 2 lots of final tapes which different camera moves & shots, and not a transfer done between the formats (I'd always suspects some where done as transfers). Add to that the 16mm tele-recordings that were made, it's a dog dinners as each version of each show could have differences...
Trouble is the 3rd party costs - the guest stars, the musicians (full orchestra don't forget) and the music clearances - be very expensive to clear...
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Post by petercheck on Mar 20, 2019 10:33:31 GMT
What the above 2 vids also prove is that each show was shot with NTSC & PAL cameras next to each other so 2 lots of final tapes which different camera moves & shots, and not a transfer done between the formats (I'd always suspects some where done as transfers). This wasn't the case in the first series, when the UK and US performances were filmed separately, and are entirely different versions. This is certainly the case with Dusty Springfield's 'Son Of a Preacher Man' and Julie Driscoll's 'Indian Rope Man', to name just two. |
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Post by Peter Stirling on Mar 20, 2019 12:24:58 GMT
I had a meeting with Mark , Tom's son and manager, a few years back and this series was touched upon - the holdings are basically a mess and they would love to get them all together. What the above 2 vids also prove is that each show was shot with NTSC & PAL cameras next to each other so 2 lots of final tapes which different camera moves & shots, and not a transfer done between the formats (I'd always suspects some where done as transfers). Add to that the 16mm tele-recordings that were made, it's a dog dinners as each version of each show could have differences... Trouble is the 3rd party costs - the guest stars, the musicians (full orchestra don't forget) and the music clearances - be very expensive to clear... Clutching at a straw here and not saying it may apply today...but we do know ITC were slick operators in nailing down clearances for their shows often "in perpetuity" |
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Mar 20, 2019 16:36:59 GMT
As the Tom Jones series is a tape based series rather than film, it may well have been made under different agreements...
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Post by Jeff Leach on Feb 8, 2022 19:17:26 GMT
More clips emerge from the at one time missing episodes
Recently uploaded :
The Foundations "Build me up Buttercup" In colour !
Sandie Shaw Monsieur Dupont
LuLu
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