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Post by B Thomas on Mar 25, 2005 13:45:20 GMT
Just been researching this one and listening to the theme song which sparked some obscure memory for me. Possibly another show I saw in the seventies...?
Does anyone have details of when this show screened in New Zealand? I wonder if any episodes of this lie in dusty forgotten corners as I'm not sure if many in NZ are aware of this being lost or of value...
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Post by William Martin on Mar 26, 2005 15:17:47 GMT
Just been researching this one and listening to the theme song which sparked some obscure memory for me. Possibly another show I saw in the seventies...? Does anyone have details of when this show screened in New Zealand? I wonder if any episodes of this lie in dusty forgotten corners as I'm not sure if many in NZ are aware of this being lost or of value... how is the relationship between TVNZ and the BBC/ITV? if its good then I would imagine that if ITV asked they might get some info, but they don't seem to be as bothered as the BBC. I think a nice letter to the archive manager is required. Perhaps you or some other of our members in NZ may get somewhere.
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Post by B Thomas on Mar 26, 2005 15:45:16 GMT
Hmmm... Yeah, not a bad idea...
I believe there are some who have been searching the archives for some years here - although some have hinted in the past that they may have been mainly concerned with Dr Who.
Who knows? There may be a few old AOW episodes tucked away somewhere...
Jon - if you're out there - any chance of checking in with Graham Howard on this?
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Post by William Martin on Mar 31, 2005 14:38:55 GMT
there's so much missing material it's quite possible that the people searching may have missed something unless they cross checked all non NZ programs, even then some BBC & ITV archives list missing material as present and some existing material as non existent.
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Post by Stuart Douglas on Apr 5, 2005 15:34:28 GMT
Just been researching this one and listening to the theme song which sparked some obscure memory for me. Possibly another show I saw in the seventies...? Does anyone have details of when this show screened in New Zealand? I wonder if any episodes of this lie in dusty forgotten corners as I'm not sure if many in NZ are aware of this being lost or of value... I remember reading somewhere that the episode 'Seven Serpents, Sulphur and Salt' had been recovered (in New Zealand?) in the early 90s. Am I mis-remembering or was the in fact episode recovered? Regards Stuart
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Post by Laurence Piper on Apr 5, 2005 17:47:30 GMT
It wasn't sadly! Seven Serpents is one of the Ace stories that i'd most like to see turn up though. I have some vague memories of it at the time and is probably a key missing item from the series. Anyone in NZ reading this who could do some research into Ace Of Wands prints?
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Post by B Thomas on Apr 6, 2005 7:31:04 GMT
I have been in touch with the TVNZ Television Archive who assure me that they no longer hold copies of foreign programmes from the time period in question (1970s).
I have vague memories of the Tony Selby episodes myself (possibly from "The Eye of Ra" - which rings a bell with me) but cannot be sure if I saw this in New Zealand or another country (maybe Australia?).
Who knows...?
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Post by Laurence Piper on Apr 6, 2005 9:24:16 GMT
Yes, maybe Australia is another place to look. Mind you, it needs someone that has an interest themselves to physically check an archive; I recall someone did this in Aus some time back in relation to Doctor Who (and there was found to be a whole area containing expired foreign sales prints, including UK shoes - although no DW, as it happened). The TV companies are obviously going to say that they have no foreign material if asked by the public - it needs a deeper dig to see what's ACTUALLY sitting there.
The Eye Of Ra was the last story from season 2 of Ace Of Wands and the one I recall most from that earlier period. It'd be nice to have it returned to the archives (or indeed ANY of the Selby / Loe episodes). We do at least know that copies were made and circulated abroad. So that's a start...
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Post by B Thomas on Apr 6, 2005 12:05:58 GMT
Yeah, cheers Laurence. I did get the impression that it was one of the general "fob-off" emails I got back but what can you do? I'll see what I can do re: someone digging deeper from within - more on that if anything eventuates.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Apr 6, 2005 13:42:51 GMT
Good luck with that anyway!
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Post by Dexter ONeill on Apr 11, 2005 16:29:16 GMT
What actually is left of the first two seasons of Ace of Wands?
Like Dr Who are scripts and off air recordings still surviving?
Dexter O'Neill
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Post by B Thomas on Apr 12, 2005 1:26:16 GMT
It has been stated somewhere that off-air sound-tracks of most, if not all, of Season 2 exist in private hands somewhere. Correct me if I'm wrong...
Currently no material at all survives in the Thames archives of either Seasons 1 or 2. Again, feel free to amend this if and when anything does resurface.
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Post by Ben on Apr 12, 2005 16:06:09 GMT
there's so much missing material it's quite possible that the people searching may have missed something unless they cross checked all non NZ programs, even then some BBC & ITV archives list missing material as present and some existing material as non existent. I agree. A lot of people (Doctor Who fans, in particular) seem only concerned with "their" series and probably wouldn't know a missing episode from another series if it bit them on a bum and said "I'm a missing episode of Ace of Wands".
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Post by William Martin on Apr 14, 2005 14:53:17 GMT
They’d probably just swat it.
In an ideal world of limitless time and money we'd all just grab everything we could and then have a big share out.
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Post by Graham Howard on Apr 20, 2005 8:11:54 GMT
Hmmm... Yeah, not a bad idea... I believe there are some who have been searching the archives for some years here - although some have hinted in the past that they may have been mainly concerned with Dr Who. Who knows? There may be a few old AOW episodes tucked away somewhere... Jon - if you're out there - any chance of checking in with Graham Howard on this? I think it was 1991 when I went through "the archives" - specifically the stock of old programmes TVNZ was holding on behalf of distributors - and I can say with a high degree of certainty that there were no episodes of Ace of Wands - none. It was one of the programmes for which I would have been very interested to find any episodes, whether missing or not, since it was a programme I remembered enjoying as a child. As I've said before, most of the films that were held there were American, and of the UK programmes often they were black and white versions of programmes I knew existed in colour (e.g. UFO). I'd stress that these films no longer exist, apart from a very small proportion that were preserved - of which nothing missing! If any Ace of Wands still survive in this country it will be because the episodes went walkabout (and have not since been chucked out). From what we know now, this is certainly not impossible, but still unlikely. Graham Howard
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