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Post by stevenn on Mar 14, 2005 11:52:16 GMT
Hi everyone...I'm new to the site, so apologies if this is an obvious question. I'm from the UK, but moved to the Republic of Ireland a year ago. Has anyone ever checked out the possibilities of RTE (Eire TV) retaining copies of missing 60's/70's episodes, for eg; Dr.Who?...just a random thought....
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Post by Kev on Mar 14, 2005 14:11:45 GMT
RTE was formed in 61.
Like all companies most of their shows are wiped.
I doubt they had the resources to buy Who until the late 70's.
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Post by univited guest on Mar 14, 2005 14:45:45 GMT
Why should RTE buy BBC programmes when half the population use to hack into the N Ireland transmitters
and get BBC anyway?
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Post by Steven Nicholls on Mar 14, 2005 15:27:35 GMT
Thanks for this guys, just a thought. Since I've been here, RTE have been showing 1980's BBC stuff, and was just curious of the extent of this in the past...  |
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Post by William Martin on Mar 14, 2005 16:13:14 GMT
freinds from the republic tell me that RTE mainly showed American shows rather than BBC but as above postings said they could get the BBC from the transmitters in the North anyway.
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Post by KennyG on Mar 15, 2005 14:10:02 GMT
Hi everyone...I'm new to the site, so apologies if this is an obvious question. I'm from the UK, but moved to the Republic of Ireland a year ago. Has anyone ever checked out the possibilities of RTE (Eire TV) retaining copies of missing 60's/70's episodes, for eg; Dr.Who?...just a random thought.... RTE had a big archive project a few years ago where they transferred all their quads and recatalogued all their films. I spoke to the guy in charge of the archive, Con Bushe, at the time and he indicated that they had only found lost domestic stuff, mainly from the 70s. Ken |
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Post by Chuffer Dandridge on May 5, 2005 20:44:21 GMT
RTE did show some BBC series in the 60s and 70s, comedies and the like of The Forsyte Saga but they never showed Doctor Who. I do remember them showing some episodes of Maigret in the late 70s, but I
don't know if they kept any copies.
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Post by andrew martin on May 6, 2005 14:37:14 GMT
I have a feeling some of the BBC's 16mm copies of "Maigret" have labels suggesting they had been to Ireland (others to New Zealand, Sweden etc) - not that it matters anyway as there aren't any "Maigret" episodes missing (far from it, most episodes even have uncut recordings, all but one have 35mm master film recordings).
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Post by Mister B on May 7, 2005 8:22:17 GMT
If the 60's Maigret is complete in the archives (which is good to know), I am surprised it has not been released on VHS or DVD so far, unless there is a block on it.
I for one would buy it if it was released.
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Post by PHNEILL on May 7, 2005 14:46:43 GMT
RTE regularly show British TV programmes to this day. Eastenders for example is transmitted at the same time as the BBC. Not everyone in the Republic has access to the UK channels. For such access you either need to live close to the border with Northern Ireland erect a large and expensive aerial to receive programmes from Wales or subscribe to cable. Not everyone has these options.
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Post by Guest on May 7, 2005 18:59:38 GMT
RTE regularly show British TV programmes to this day. Eastenders for example is transmitted at the same time as the BBC. Not everyone in the Republic has access to the UK channels. For such access you either need to live close to the border with Northern Ireland erect a large and expensive aerial to receive programmes from Wales or subscribe to cable. Not everyone has these options. Sky is marketed to Ireland as well as the UK is it not? And as the BBC channels are unencrypted/soft encrypted on satellite frequencies it wouldn't even need a subscription contract? ... |
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Post by Andrew Doherty on May 8, 2005 17:38:41 GMT
I would like to mention that a BBC television drama was discovered during a stock taking session at RTE in early 1990. The can had the official BBC crest on the label and the title 'This Day in Fear'. RTE got in contact with the BBC Archive and asked for more details about this programme. To cut a long story short a BBC researcher found out that this was a drama broadcast 'live' on Tuesday, 1st July 1958. It starred Patrick McGoohan and Billie Whitelaw. It was a 'thriller' drama about a former IRA man who repents and starts a new life as an architect and gets married to the character played by Billie Whitelaw. However, his former colleagues are on to him. I won't go further, except to say, that it is typical of contemporary plays from the late 1950s to have a really good twist to the plot.
Needless to say the BBC had this 16mm telerecording returned to the BBC Archive and a copy was made for the National Film and Television Archive.
It was the first play written by Malcolm A. Hulke and Eric Paice to be broadcast. Originally the play was sent to Associated Rediffusion. They rejected it. The BBC, subsequently, read the script, liked what they read and decided it would be ideal as the first play in a series of dramas to be broadcast in the July and August of 1958.
This series was for writers new to television and called 'Television Playwriting'. George Foa directed the drama. This director normally worked in the area of outside broadcasts (e.g. BBC concerts). At the end of the play the then BBC newsreader and continuity announcer, Kenneth Kendal, reads the credits.
In June 1991 this drama was shown at the NFT along with the September 1959 ITV Armchair Theatre production "The Scent Of Fear" by Ted Willis and starred
Dorothy Tutin and Anthony Quayle. Again, outstanding for a live television drama.
The audience were delighted with both productions.
Now, these would be excellent choices for a dvd release to mark the two television start-up anniversaries.
Yours,
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Post by KennyG on May 9, 2005 11:29:45 GMT
I would like to mention that a BBC television drama was discovered during a stock taking session at RTE in early 1990. The can had the official BBC crest on the label and the title 'This Day in Fear'. RTE got in contact with the BBC Archive and asked for more details about this programme. To cut a long story short a BBC researcher found out that this was a drama broadcast 'live' on Tuesday, 1st July 1958. Interesting. Did anyone find out how that print wound up at RTE seeing as the station didn't begin transmitting in 1962. Was it a foreign sale or something? |
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Post by andrew martin on May 9, 2005 13:13:34 GMT
If the 60's Maigret is complete in the archives (which is good to know), I am surprised it has not been released on VHS or DVD so far, unless there is a block on it. I for one would buy it if it was released. Not really surprising - other than Dr Who, releases of b/w drama by the BBC don't seem to have done very well - Adam Adamant & Z Cars being the main examples that spring to mind, where episodes were released but didn't exactly set the world on fire... Perhaps it will happen in due course - though there may also be rights issues, as the series was a co-production. |
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Post by Andrew Doherty on May 9, 2005 23:39:04 GMT
Interesting. Did anyone find out how that print wound up at RTE seeing as the station didn't begin transmitting in 1962. Was it a foreign sale or something? In reply, I believe that the original broadcast would have been seen by future RTE executives and when RTE began broadcasting (I think it was earlier than 1962 and was around the end of 1960) was bought for showing at some stage of their start up period. It will be noted that if a programme was recorded it would have been kept for a minimum of two years and, possibly, three years before junking. So, there would have been an opportunity for RTE to have had a copy made. It will be noted that before the start of the drama there is a test with the BBC crest shown and the words "This is a BBC Telerecording" superimposed. Clearly, any sales by the BBC to other countries in the 1950s would have had this on-screen labelling. Yours, |
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