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Post by Matthew on Feb 8, 2005 19:35:52 GMT
The restoration of Pertwee Doctor Who episodes into broadcastable colour from B/W film recordings and colour, domestic Betamax recordings has got me wondering if the Beeb's competitors archives know what would be worth keeping for any ITV programmes to potentially undergo a similar process.
It would be a shame if, for arguments sake, colour VHS viewing copies made of now non-existant colour U-Matic viewing copies of Timeslip were junked.
Some ITV programmes are known or thought to exist, at best as colour film recordings, since B/W film recordings which were noticeably sharper, were also made during this era, if any are in existance of programmes also colour FR'ed, could the two be potentially combined to make higher quality footage?
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Post by Ben on Mar 19, 2005 3:50:50 GMT
I'm not sure ITV really care, sadly. And recolourising or restoring Timeslip would prove to be highly unprofitable due to it being generally unknown (generally unknown = little interest = poor sales of commercial releases).
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Post by Guest on Mar 19, 2005 17:13:42 GMT
I'd agree there is no money in colour restoring series like "Timeslip" - after all the real fans will buy the b/w anyway and colour sets aren't going to get swathes of new buyers. Plus there is not much chance of sales for broadcast as the series doesn't fit any modern channel's remit
Had 25 episodes been in colour and only one in b/w then "some" case could be made
As it's the opposite - no chance
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Post by Guest on Mar 19, 2005 17:15:36 GMT
Just to add ... there are no colour copies of Timeslip known to exist apart from the one surviving eps on any format - so it's not possible in any case
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Post by William Martin on Mar 21, 2005 16:04:49 GMT
Just to add ... there are no colour copies of Timeslip known to exist apart from the one surviving eps on any format - so it's not possible in any case although there are plenty of colour stills so that they could be used as a guide for artifical re-colouristion.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Mar 21, 2005 16:18:56 GMT
I'd agree there is no money in colour restoring series like "Timeslip" - after all the real fans will buy the b/w anyway and colour sets aren't going to get swathes of new buyers. Plus there is not much chance of sales for broadcast as the series doesn't fit any modern channel's remit Had 25 episodes been in colour and only one in b/w then "some" case could be made As it's the opposite - no chance Ultimately I think that re-colourising things like this will depend on demand. There are plenty of colour stills as a reference, after all. As the cost of the technology decreases, this will be a real possibility, as it will be with other things where only a limited amount of colour video footage exists (e.g. Dr. Who Mind Of Evil). Whether or not it's right to do this though is another matter entirely. Fans have the b/w version, yes, but they would probably be tempted by new colourised / restored / Vidfired version too (I know I would) if it's a series they like enough and are not prepared to suffer in blurry b/w any more...
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Post by William Martin on Mar 21, 2005 17:25:59 GMT
Your right, only when the technology is cheap and its as easy to to all this fancy stuff as not to, will it happen. TV companies, like electricity, take the path of least resitance.
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Post by Mark Brown on Mar 21, 2005 18:00:36 GMT
why does this post generate ads for knickers on the forum?
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Post by helpful hartley on Mar 21, 2005 18:44:44 GMT
why does this post generate ads for knickers on the forum? perhaps its associating with restoring colour in faded knickers? However the ads now seem to be about "performing magic tricks at garden parties"
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Post by Laurence Piper on Mar 22, 2005 8:45:51 GMT
Your right, only when the technology is cheap and its as easy to to all this fancy stuff as not to, will it happen. TV companies, like electricity, take the path of least resitance. Yes. Also, fan's standards get higher each time a new level of quality is reached. 10 years ago, a non-restored VHS of Timeslip with unrestored b/w prints and logos hacked out clumsily was perfectly OK (after not generally being able to see the series at all since original transmission) but now that a nicer, cleaned up and repaired b/w version is out on DVD, the threshold has been raised again. Possibly in another few years, people will be straining at the leash for a fully colourised / Vidfired version (with colour taken from reference photos)!! Those '90s VHS releases of newly colour-restored Dr. Who stories like Terror Of The Autons, The Daemons were a revelation at the time, after having to suffer poor b/w versions or domestic colour recordinggs for so long - but now they look like crude efforts by today's standards and I can't wait for the upgrades! Everyone's standards naturally go up and so that's why a colour Timeslip in the future will be on the cards. I'd bet money on it.
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