THE AVENGERS SEASON ONE

[Noel Cunningham]

GREG H DON'T FORGET THE EPISODE GIRL ON THE TRAPEZE ONE OF THE SHOWS WITHOUT MR PATRICK MACNEE.
I WOULD LOVE MORE TO BE FOUND BUT HAS THERE BEEN MUCH LUCK WITH ABC SHOWS BEING FOUND IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

[Greg H]

Hey there, girl on a trapeze was a great recovery but I have to confess that I didn't enjoy it that much compared to the other season 1 bits. Now, hot snow (what exists of it anyway) is absolutely amazing! I would give one of my co worker's right hands for the rest of that episode

[John Green]

I read about the "unidentified Ian Hendry" drama discovered at the time.More information would be welcome.

[Noel Cunningham]

Jan 10, 2012 16:15:15 GMT Greg H said:

Hey there, girl on a trapeze was a great recovery but I have to confess that I didn't enjoy it that much compared to the other season 1 bits. Now, hot snow (what exists of it anyway) is absolutely amazing! I would give one of my co worker's right hands for the rest of that episode

HAVE YOU SEEN ACT ONE OF HOT SNOW ON THE NEW BONUS DISC IT LOOKS GREAT WITH ALL THE WORK THEY DONE ON IT JUST A SHAME THAT THEY DID NOT GET PATRICK TO DO THE VOICE OVER FOR THE LASTS TWO ACTS.

[Greg H]

It does indeed look great. I would go out on limb and say a possible classic of 60s television. I especially like the camp gangster An all time great.

[Noel Cunningham]

Jan 10, 2012 16:15:15 GMT Greg H said:

Hey there, girl on a trapeze was a great recovery but I have to confess that I didn't enjoy it that much compared to the other season 1 bits. Now, hot snow (what exists of it anyway) is absolutely amazing! I would give one of my co worker's right hands for the rest of that episode

IT'S TURE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT HOT SNOW BUT WHY DID YOU NOT ENJOY GIRL ON A TRAPEZE BECAUSE I WOULD SAY IT'S UP THERE WITH HOT SNOW. ;D

[Andrew Doherty]

I understand that the holders of the ABC Television archive are having a new inventory made. Already the entire series of 'Overseas Press Club' has been recovered. Apparently, only one episode was thought to exist before this find.

'Hot Snow' and the concluding part 'Brought To Book' were video taped because of being networked at different times. Also telerecordings of these episodes were made for possible overseas interest. So, they exist somewhere, along with a few other recordings from the first series. So, as with all the other items recovered in recent years, I would say things look more encouraging. It is possible that there may be a storage unit that contains Associated Redffusion and ABC material. It may be a sales vault for ITV material that has been forgotten over the decades.

I remember watching these programmes and know who was the character responsible for the shooting.

As I have said before, there is everything to play for, particularly considering the past three to four years of archive television programme recoveries.

Yours,

[George D]

To compare the finding of Dr Who to Avenger season 1 is night and day.

Dr Who appears to be the poster child of missing tv. The reason that the recent who episodes were found was simply because its on so many peoples minds. When people ask about Missing episodes the first series that comes to mind is Dr Who. Also Dr who has run for more years, is a current series with a new generation of fans and has become a british institution.

If people asked avengers 100,000 times a year, MAYBE, something might surface. but the amount of prints are so miniscule, its highly unlikely. While we know there werent many prints of Dr Who made, we know there were multiple prints made and it was shown in many countries. I dont think that can be said of Avengers season 1.

Im hoping the reorganation of the ABC archive shows something promising. We are fortunate that so many photos and telesnaps exist. The one thing i would love to see is audio recordings surface. I dont know who were Avengers fans at that time, however it is only two years before Dr Who and we know that a few people did record Dr Who. Wheather the reason we dont have many audio recordings of Avengers and other series is because people didnt record them or because people didnt hunt for them to preserve them, I do not know

I do hope more is done to find audio recordings of missing tv shows. If we found audio recordings of season 1, we can recreate these with the telenaps as was done on Dr Who. Granted its not perfect but I would probably feel more satisfied than with what we have now.

[Noel Cunningham]

HI ANDY WITH YOUR NEWS THERE IS SOME NEW HOPE WITH FINDS FOR ABC SHOWS.
IF I CAN ASK WHAT KIND OF SHOW IS OVERSEAS PRESS CLUB DO YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON IT AND WHEN DID THEY FIND THE EPISODES.
ALL THE BEST.
NOEL

[LanceM]

I would sure like to think that there are further episodes-material out there in regards. There have been a few good ABC finds in recent years I can think of. How about the "Goodbye To ABC" 2in low-band Quad VT reels.

Greg:

Given that Hot Snow and Girl On The Trapeze were discovered in the UCLA TV and Film library, who can really say. Is very true that all existing paperwork ( yet known about, discovered,etc.. ) leads to the inclination that this series was not exported. However, given that these episodes were found in the USA of all places, raises a few eyebrows. As of course the ABC ( American Broadcasting Corporation ) share a similar station call sign in regards. It would be my best guess that these were sent to the CBC ( Canadian Broadcasting Corporation ), as possible promotional-viewing prints. These ( am guessing?? ) were supposed to have been returned to the ABC in the UK. My best guess is that there was apparently a mix-up somewhere along the line, and these were more than likely sent to a US ABC TV station. Later discovered, and donated to the UCLA Film and VT library, for which several local stations have donated materials for in regards.

If this is indeed the case, then there may be hope for at least a few other tid-bits turning up. As am hoping this was not an isolated incident, and other prints were produced for demo-sales potential purposes. Is the only theory have been able to come up with here that makes any iota of sense.

Noel: Thank you for your kind comments, am very glad to see everyone has reached some sort of middle ground here. I agree, that is what makes life all the more interesting is the variety in human beings, otherwise things would become quite tiresome, quite fast.

I just found this Wiped.com press release from the time of the Tele-Snap discovery:

wipednews.com/2009/10/07/telesnap-treat-for-avengers-fans/

This was sourced from the Raiders Of The Lost Archives 2009 Recovery List:


The Avengers – telesnaps of Ian Hendry stories

One for the Mortuary Saturday (29.04.61 - 10pm) 80 telesnaps
The Springers Saturday (13.05.61 - 10pm) 84 telesnaps
The Frighteners Saturday (27.05.61 - 10pm) 82 telesnaps
The Yellow Needle Saturday (10.06.61 - 10pm) 82 telesnaps
Death on the Slipway Saturday (24.06.61 - 8.50pm) 90 telesnaps
Double Danger Saturday (08.07.61 - 8.50pm) 80 telesnaps
Toy Trap Saturday (22.07.61 - 8.50pm) 79 telesnaps
Tunnel of Fear Saturday (05.08.61 - 8.50pm) 78 telesnaps
The Far-Distant Dead Saturday (19.08.61 - 8.50pm) 79 telesnaps
Kill the King Saturday (02.09.61 - 8.50pm) 71 telesnaps
Dead of Winter Saturday (9.12.1961 - 10pm) 80 telesnaps
The Deadly Air Saturday (16.12.1961 - 10pm) 78 telesnaps
A Change of Bait Saturday (23.12.1961 - 10pm) 80 telesnaps
Dragonsfield Saturday (30.12.1961 - 10pm) 78 telesnaps

Ian Hendry - This Is Your Life

(unknown TX date but comes after Dragonsfield) 6 telesnaps

Total telesnaps 1,127. Recovered from Leonard White and used on the new Optimum release of The Avengers – series 1 & 2.

Noel, it was the mentioning of the Ian Hendry - This Is Your Life item which I remember as being stated as an unknown previously? Never heard any further about this one amazingly.

Slightly OT. I oddly somehow seemed to have been the only person to have remembered the return of two complete editions of Top Of The Pops from 1971 on EX-BBC N1500 tapes! I agree everyone, why have these not been shown? At the very least a performance or clip. I for one am chomping at the bit to see the John Knogos- Tokoloshe Man and two separate SLADE- Cuz I Luv You clips. I still ( 3 years later !!) await the day these finally see the light, and find a home in the hearts and minds of many!

I hope this has been of some further assistance here in regards.

Cheers, Lance.

P.S. Greg:

Likewise, I would be right there with you on that one in regards to " Hot Snow ", absolutely love the existing 1st act. I am really wanting to see the newly restored 1st act material, sounds extremely neat.

Really liked that use of the mirror camera shot in the office from the character Spicer's point of view. As well as the cross-hairs on the camera at the time of the murder of Peggy. Very well acted, and exellent camerawork, top marks all around. Wishing as many are here that the other two acts might appear, know is a very long shot, but at least a small chance is better than none at all.

Thank you as well jgreen, very glad to see I was not mistaking for something else here. I now wonder if this is the Ian Hendry-This Is Your Life item mentioned? Or possibly something entirely different? Thoughts Anyone?

[Stephen Doran]

Box sets worth getting for girl on the trapeze ch4 showed the frighteners in the 90s.

[John Green]

Now I'm getting confused!
Was the 'unidentified ' show This is Your Life with Ian Hendry?
If so (or even if not) might it be significant that the UCLA finds feature Ian Hendry,but not Macnee,in other words that this might have some connection to Hendry,his family and agent?

[felixdembinski]

did Leonard White have any other telesnaps? He produced a lot of other things, such as armchair theatre and out of this world.

[adriane17]

Isn't it the case that a fair number of the season one episodes went out "live" and weren't telerecorded? If that's the case then - at the risk of stating the obvious - there is no chance of anything surviving...

[Greg H]

IIRC correctly girl on a trapeze was supposed to have gone out live with no telerecording made. The plot thickens.......