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Post by dubs again on Nov 25, 2004 11:51:13 GMT
Very interesting Mr. Barfe, thats tightened up the list somewhat.
Now - did it run 52 weeks a year, did it run concurrently with the other Palladium shows, and when was the last ep in the 1967 series?
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Post by Phil again on Nov 25, 2004 12:25:15 GMT
Hello everyone,
I'm still ploughing through a list of guest stars!
The March 66 episode mentioned by Laurence was tx 20 March.
Spike Milligan was a guest on 31 October 1965 so maybe that one survives (also on the same show were Paul and Barry Ryan and George Raft - anyone ever seen them?).
As for summer seasons - Sunday Night was back on at least by 26 Sept 1965 because Peter, Paul and Mary, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, Frankie Vaughan and The Searchers were all on that show.
In 1966 there was a show on 19 June (with Joe Brown).
As for 67 the earliest reference I've found is one on New Year's Day (Roy Orbison, Des O'Connor and the Rockin' Berries) and the latest 21 May (Dickie Valentine).
However it came back in December and ran into early 1968! The Supremes were on 29 January 1968.
By the way all my information comes from a list of guest star stills that were taken on the show and obtained whilst at Central TV. (Only ever saw the list and not the stills!).
Phil
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Post by dubs again on Nov 25, 2004 12:55:27 GMT
Some other guest details:
10/09/61 Bruce Forsyth Bob Hope
10/03/63 Norman Vaughan Judy Garland
13/10/63 Norman Vaughan The Beatles
12/01/64 Norman Vaughan The Beatles
23/08/64 Norman Vaughan Frank Ifield "10th year" (?)
(clashes with Blackpool Night Out).
19/06/66 unknown or if even TX'd Joe Brown
(clashes with Blackpool Show).
The Supremes were on 29 January 1968 - this date is a Monday.
THE LONDON PALLADIUM SHOW
19/01/69 unknown Judy Garland
"There's also one from '65 (the "new" format) that features Charlie Drake / Henry McGee talking about Kenneth Tynan's appearance on BBC-3. I've seen a Spike Milligan clip too from around then - I assume it's from the same edition as there are so few. "
Is this the "English Teeth" rendition by Milligan or is that the 31/10/65 edition?
My apologies to Mr Barfe - of course all the "New/London Palladium" shows aired on a Sunday, also Series 2 of The Blackpool Show from 25/06/67 to 13/08/67 were also Sundays did this interupt SNATLP or did the two shows air on a Sunday night that year?
This is as difficult as making up my Golden Shot list!
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Post by Matthew K Sharp on Nov 25, 2004 12:58:56 GMT
"There's also one from '65 (the "new" format) that features Charlie Drake / Henry McGee talking about Kenneth Tynan's appearance on BBC-3. I've seen a Spike Milligan clip too from around then - I assume it's from the same edition as there are so few. " Is this the "English Teeth" rendition by Milligan or is that the 31/10/65 edition? The BBC3 Tynan incident was 13-11-65, if that's any help in dating the SNATLP show that refers to it. |
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Post by Laurence Piper on Nov 25, 2004 13:48:34 GMT
Yes, they say "the other day" or "last week" in reference to the Tynan incident (don't have the tape to hand right now to be specific) so it's likely the edition from the following Sunday.
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Post by Carl on Nov 25, 2004 14:13:13 GMT
Spike Milligan was a guest on 31 October 1965 so maybe that one survives (also on the same show were Paul and Barry Ryan and George Raft - anyone ever seen them?). Wasn't there a clip of George Raft on SNALP on ATV Night? |
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Post by William Martin on Nov 25, 2004 14:14:35 GMT
how to flip a coin?
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Post by Dick Fiddy on Nov 25, 2004 14:54:32 GMT
We recently showed the Mario Lanza edition at the NFT. This was from 24.11.57 and Hughie Green was the host.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Nov 25, 2004 15:22:46 GMT
Ah, interesting! Do you know how many / which editions in total from the '50s / '60s survive, Dick?
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Post by Phil again on Nov 25, 2004 16:32:55 GMT
sorry about the Supremes slip. I got my own notes wrong - it was 28 January 1968 on a show which also had Des O'Connor and Howard Winstone (who he?). In the same year I've got Dusty Springfield, Tony Bennett and Buddy Rich on 10 March. And possibly Les Dawson on the same show but a typo gives it as 10 October! Maybe in '68 it was a few one-offs rather than a regular series. But then you're right it was back on 19 January 1969 for Judy Garland, Freddie Davies and The Bachelors. I wonder who topped the bill for that show  |
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Post by dubs again on Nov 25, 2004 18:10:33 GMT
Another listing I found:
25/09/55 (show 1) - Gracie Fields, Guy Mitchell.
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Post by Phil again on Nov 26, 2004 9:34:07 GMT
ok here goes I've knocked the info I've got into shape and with a lot of help from Dubs's list have come up with the following list of 1965 - 1969 shows -
28.2.65 Ray Alan, Petula Clarke, Kenny Ball
7.3.65 Roy Orbison
21.3.65 ?
28.3.65 ?
4.4.65 Dickie Henderson, Sid Millwall & The Nitwits
11.4.65 Tom Jones
18.4.65 ?
25.4.65 Shirley Bassey, Ray Fell, King Brothers
2.5.65 ?
9.5.65 ?
16.5.65 ?
23.5.65 ?
30.5.65 ?
6.6.65 Rudolph Nureyev
13.6.65 Cliff and The Shadows
20.6.65 Mike Yarwood
27.6.65 ?
4.7.65 – 19.9.65 (no shows??)
26.9.65 Sarah Miles, Peter, Paul and Mary, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, Frankie Vaughan, The Searchers
3.10.65 Kenneth Moore, Pete Seeger, The Hollies, Frankie Howerd
10.10.65 Hermione Gingold, Shirley Bassey, Mike Yarwood, The Seekers
17.10.65 Michael Bentine, Dusty Springfield, Roger Moore, The New Faces
24.10.65 Michael Bentine, Mike Berry, The Bachelors, Cliff Richard, The Fortunes
31.10.65 Spike Milligan, George Raft, Paul and Barry Ryan
7.11.65 and 14.11.65 (no shows?)
21.11.65 Bessie Braddock, Cliff Richard
28.11.65 Johnny Dankworth and Cleo Laine, Tony Martin
5.12.65 Joe Loss, Tito Gobbi, Richard Hearne, The Honeycombs
12.12.65 Frank Ifield, The Bachelors
19.12.65 (no show??)
26.12.65 Jim Dale, Frankie Vaughan, Kenny Baker, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, Mike and Bernie Winters, Janie Marden
unknown dates 1965 – Kenneth McKeller, Kathy Kirby, Gene Barry, The Barron Knights
I'll post 1966 in a bit!
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Post by Laurence Piper on Nov 26, 2004 12:22:55 GMT
Hmm, the 31/10/65 show must be the existing one as i've seen clips of Raft and Milligan. That doesn't explain the Charlie Drake appearance though, which, if the Tynan incident was 13/11/65, must be from a show soon after that - meaning another one exists from around this time.
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Post by Phil again on Nov 26, 2004 12:51:39 GMT
Right here's the next lot covering 1966. Looks like Lew Grade kept going for a lot of the same names in his Rolodex.......
2.1.66 Shirley Bassey, Mike Berry, Alexander Brothers
9.1.66 Charlie Drake
16.1.66 The Bachelors, Peter Nero, Beverley Sisters, Ted Rogers
23.1.66 Frankie Vaughan, Anne Shelton
30.1.66 Petula Clark, Hughie Green
6.2.66 Kaye Sisters, Pat Boone, Barbara Windsor, Swinging Bluejeans
13.2.66 Clark Brothers, Cilla Black, Gerry and the Pacemakers
20.2.66 Dickie Valentine, The New Faces
27.2.66 ?
6.3.66 Russ Conway, Frank Ifield, Millicent Martin
13.3.66 The Bachelors, Andy Stewart, Dallas Boys
20.3.66 The Seekers, Julie Rogers, Nina and Frederick
27.3.66 Ted Rogers, Nina and Frederick
3.4.66 Adele Leigh, Dave Allen, Erroll Garner, Tom Jones
10.4.66 Mark Wynter, The Fortunes, Kathy Kirby
17.4.66 Edmond Hockridge, Trini Lopez
24.4.66 Frank Ifield, Jonathan Winters, Michael Bentine, Millicent Martin
1.5.66 (no show??)
8.5.66 Roger Moore, Tommy Cooper, Michael Bentine, Roy Castle, Lorne Green, Kathy Kirby
15.5.66 David Nixon, Liza Minelli
22.5.66 Morecambe and Wise, Clark Brothers, Tom Jones, Millicent Martin
29.5.66 Susan Maughan, Mike Berry, Mike Yarwood, Erroll Garner
5.6.66 Dave Allen, Fess Parker, Svetlana Berisova, Mike and Bernie Winters, Millicent Martin, Dickie Henderson
12.6.66 The Walker Brothers, Dickie Valentine, Margo Henderson
19.6.66 Morecambe and Wise, Joe Brown, Roger Moore, Millicent Martin, The Bachelors
3.7.66 Des O’Connor, Hugh O’Brien, Millicent Martin, The Dallas Boys, The Gang Show (one off special??)
25.9.66 ?
2.10.66 ?
9.10.66 Ray Fell, Millicent Martin, Cliff and The Shadows
16.10.66 (no show?)
23.10.66 ?
30.10.66 ?
6.11.66 ?
13.11.66 (no show??)
20.11.66 Nina and Frederick, Max Bygraves
27.11.66 ?
4.12.66 (no show??)
11.12.66 ?
The final block of 1966 shows is a bit odd, very little information, maybe there were only two shows?
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Post by Phil again on Nov 26, 2004 13:01:35 GMT
And here's 1967-1969. I think we can see why the Rolling Stones caused so much fuss on the show - when the standard pop guests were the likes of The Bachelors and the Dallas Boys  This whole thread began with a question about Vikki Carr unfortunately she's not mentioned on any of this stuff! However to make amends to Stephen Doran she appeared on - Frankie Vaughan Show in 1965 Tom Jones Show, Morecambe and Wise Show, Royal Variety Performance and somthing called 'Spotlight' in 1967 and the Des O'Connor Show in 1970. Whatever happened to light-entertainment  1.1.67 The Rockin Berries, Roy Orbison, Des O’Connor, Susan Lane 8.1.67 Pavone, Giacomo Aragall, Rich Little, Robert Morley, The Bitter End Singers, Rudi Cardenas 15.1.67 Rudolph Nureyev, New Vaudeville Band, Jackie Trent, Andy Stewart, Dame Margot Fonteyn, The Clark Brothers 22.1.67 Rolling Stones, Shani Wallis, Dave Allen, Ukranian Cossacks 29.1.67 Julie Rogers, Dave Allen, Kenny Ball, Max Bygraves 5.2.67 Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 12.2.67 The Dallas Boys, Tom Jones 19.2.67 Paul and Barry Ryan, Dusty Springfield, Johnny Hackett 26.2.67 (no show?) 5.3.67 Peret, Paul Anka, Englebert Humperdinck, Kaye Sisters, Bob Monkhouse, Mike Yarwood 12.3.67 Edmond Hockridge, Trini Lopez, Francoise Hardy, Bob Monkhouse 19.3.67 Giacomo Aragall, Dev Shawn, Shirley Bassey 26.3.67 (no show?) 2.4.67 (no show?) 9.4.67 Henry Youngman, Freddie and The Dreamers, Mireille Mathieu, Bob Monkhouse, The Bachelors 16.4.67 Mireille Mathieu 23.4.67 (no show?) 30.4.67 (no show?) 7.5.67 Elizabeth Vaughan, The Seekers, Lonnie Donegan, Johnny Hart, Mike Yarwood 14.5.67 Dusty Springfield, Kiki Dee, Vince Hill, Jack Benny, Max Bygraves 21.5.67 Dickie Valentine, Ray Fell, Bob Monkhouse, Cilla Black 29.10.67 Max Bygraves, Millicent Martin 3.12.67 Mike Yarwood, Shirley Bassey, Antoinette Sibley, Rudolph Nureyev 21.1.68 Tom Jones 28.1.68 Howard Winstone, Des O’Connor, The Supremes 10.3.68 Tony Bennett, Dickie Henderson, Buddy Rich 19.1.69 Judy Garland, Freddie Davies, The Bachelors 26.1.69 Fred Roby, Vince Hill, Mike Yarwood, Peter Nero, Frankie Howerd, Tommy Jones 2.2.69 Mike and Bernie Winters, Will Gains, Ted Rogers, Lena Horne unknown 1965-1969 Hope and Keen, Paddy Hopkirk, Les Dawson, Jack Haigh |
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