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Post by Paul Tivy on Dec 22, 2011 12:58:32 GMT
Did anyody else notice that Bowie plays the first half of the harmonica riff from Love Me Do at the end there? Quite appropriate of course, as the second half of that riff is what Jean Jeanie is based on!
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Dec 22, 2011 13:15:58 GMT
There's a version of Jean Genie where David goes on to sing a verse of Love Me Do. You'll find it as part of this performance, starting 4mins 45secs in, so it was obviously a nod to John Lennon's original harp riff: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bjDK1Mtf2Q
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Post by Liam Joseph on Dec 22, 2011 13:44:42 GMT
It was spine tingling last night watching Bowie and the Spiders in action at their absolute peak in a performance that was thought lost forever. I'd just to add my thanks to everyone else's John, and am keeping my fingers crossed that a few more lost treasures lurk in your lock-up.
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Dec 22, 2011 15:07:00 GMT
Hi John, I would like to echo all that has been said since you came onto this fantastic forum, you are among friends here so don't think you are rambling, we love to hear your memories (which are also our memories too) of the best period of TOTP. As I have already said you and the tapes you saved are the talk of the town on forums of groups and artists of the era every fan forum from Slade Sweet Suzie Quatro Mud T.Rex and the like are literally wetting themselves at the thought you (MAY) have some of their wiped performances. Not only have you increased the membership of this forum but you have also sparked more people to become interested in the archive and missing tv field, I will close saying it was great to see you on the news, it's always great to put a face to a name and we hope that you will continue "rambling" on for years to come and not fade into the background, merry Christmas John and thanks for the memories.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2011 16:44:19 GMT
I can't really add anything to what's already been said other than thanks to John Henshall. It was also very nice to chat with you in the NFT bar last week, to put a face to the name. I hope that the BBC will treat it's TOTP (and general depleted pop music archive) with the respect it deserves from now on - the Bowie clip, if nothing else, proves that it needs to be!
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Post by Geoff.D on Dec 22, 2011 16:46:47 GMT
Again - many thanks, John, for making this happen. The thing that struck me was that the picture quality was nothing short of stunning, a tribute to your storage methods and the tape you used.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2011 17:13:28 GMT
Just got back from Glasgow (which ironically is where i was going when I heard John on Radio 2) & finally got to see the clip. Brilliant, thats how i remember early 70's top of the pops. colourful,exciting innovative. Brilliant camerawork fantastic performance & great production, I actually remember going to buy jean Genie & being dissapointed that the disc wasnt as good as the pops performance. That happened quite a lot back then, its also brought back many memories of a brilliant time to be growing up. Great to see John a true unsung hero get his belated 5 minutes of fame & lets hope he gets a bit more when his archive is transferred, also so nice to see him on here reminicing & name checking other unsung heroes who worked for auntie beeb back in the day in his postings. I'm so pleased i managed to kick start the recovery of this clip. All the best to John for making this performance available again and to Ray for all his hard work this year (how many recoveries Ray, too many to mention) thanks to your dogged persistance) & to everyone who loves archive tv & helps in the recovery of it. Merry Christmas all.
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Dec 22, 2011 21:48:12 GMT
Thanks to all involved in the process of recovering this footage.
I speak for myself and others who have no connection with television professionally. There are many great fans of cult TV and Bowie in everyday jobs who are grateful for this.
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Post by nicadare on Dec 22, 2011 21:57:14 GMT
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Dec 23, 2011 12:45:23 GMT
As expected it was cropped for widescreen and, of course, it includes the obligatory TOTP2 voiceover and captions. No doubt someone will upload a better version soon using the audio from one of the recent radio broadcasts? What did I tell you? The first "overdubbed" version of Jean Genie is now showing on YouTube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7atHoLxow9k
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Post by Mick A on Dec 23, 2011 16:42:51 GMT
Great work John & thanks again for giving us all this great buzz
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Post by alistairwilson on Dec 23, 2011 17:34:46 GMT
I have watched the Jean Genie clip several times now and it gets better with each viewing. The 'Love me do' harmonica riff is a great touch by Bowie and it gives the song something extra that the studio recording never caught. With the fish eye lens et al, it was good to see that the whole TOTP production team was trying to be innovative with their filming at that time.
Many thanks to John and all others involved in this find. Hopefully the Beeb will now get on the phone to ZDF and ask for copies of all their TOTP performances.
Find of the year!
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Post by nicadare on Dec 23, 2011 17:37:00 GMT
I watched on a 4:3 aspect ratio TV and apart from a small black border top and bottom I thought it was broadcast in it's original aspect ratio. If it was a widescreen 16:9 broadcast there would of been much wider black bars top and bottom of screen. Perhaps the aspect ratio was determined by your Freeview box/satellite receiver settings.
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Dec 23, 2011 20:59:09 GMT
The BBC tend to output widescreen content in a 14:9 ratio when you set your box to 4:3 so you only get a small black border top and bottom. This is to appease those who complain about the black borders. However, you're actually losing a little bit extra on the sides. The BBC News clips earlier in the day stretched the 4:3 clip to 16:9 so using a snapshot from that broadcast (squeezed back to the correct ratio) you can compare the differences: How it should have looked (correct 4:3 / 12:9 ratio) The same image taken from the TOTP2 widescreen broadcast (16:9) The same image taken from the TOTP2 4:3 broadcast (shown in 14:9) So anyone watching in 4:3 was getting a slightly zoomed-in picture. The cropping was most noticeable about 1min 10secs into the song when the camera zooms in on Bowie and we just see his eyes and nose. His mouth would still be fully visible in 4:3. Obviously, having to mix different aspect ratios within a programme is a nightmare for broadcasters. There's no perfect solution that will please everyone...
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 23, 2011 21:01:15 GMT
I've sent an e-mail to the beeb congratulating them on using this lost gem and making the point about all the other known "lost" footage TOTP like Jimi Hendrix, Hollies, Pink Floyd, Kinks, Manfred Mann and ZDF archive clips used as inserts. If we all did this you never know they might sit up and listen?
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