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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2010 22:28:51 GMT
I remember slade doing a tv performance with jim leas brother on drums while Don powell was in hospital. Is that one of the missing squeze me pleeze me performances?
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Post by Chris Dabbs on Aug 31, 2010 0:00:31 GMT
Sadly it seems it is Rob. This was performed over the summer of '73 and there's nothing in the archives according to the Beeb. :-) I remember slade doing a tv performance with jim leas brother on drums while Don powell was in hospital. Is that one of the missing squeze me pleeze me performances?
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Aug 31, 2010 1:28:25 GMT
I remember slade doing a tv performance with jim leas brother on drums while Don powell was in hospital. Is that one of the missing squeze me pleeze me performances? Frank (Jims Bro) did NOT perform with Slade on any TV prog during Dons recovery the only time Frank stood in for Don Powell was the gig at Douglas Isle Of Man. Don's accident happend on the Tuesday following the triumphant earls court gig, they were due to film (as per the No ! slot) TOTP the next day (Wednesday): And nobody has ever seen this before: Dons first filmed performance was for the promo of My Friend Stan: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwunG0wNB-gObviously the TOTP (Robin Nash producer) decided to use the promo filmed at Chessinton Zoo in 1972 for Look Wot U dun overdubbed with Skweeze and the following week was danced to by pans. Furthermore as stated above at least 1 TOTP skweeze exists in the PVL as well as the much reported Lift off (nobody, as far as I'm aware has ever seen this) As well as Earls Court: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfJN7YCtEVMAnd I know where the full Earls Court footage is
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2010 9:41:14 GMT
The problem with talking about this PVL as containing this or that item is that (with the exception of a very small number of poor quality clips that have seemingly leaked from this collection) no one has accessed the tapes to see if what is claimed to be on them is actually there! We have the owners' word on what the labels say but if they were played they could either be found to not contain the material in question or that they are unplayable and anything recorded on them is unsalvageable!
If the person owning the tapes is genuine and actually cares about preserving some rare archive TV, then he would be doing himself a great favour by allowing someone reputable (such as from Kaleidoscope or the BFI) to play back a couple of sample reels to see what's actually there. If he's unwilling to do even this, then we can all draw a perfectly reasonable conclusion that there is no valuable material on them!
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Aug 31, 2010 9:50:36 GMT
I have a contact who has accessed part of the PVL via the owner and he commented:- "When the PVL chap showed me 10cc's The Dean And I from TOTP, I was just speechless." (He was speaking positively, I might add).
I would like to point out that this is a contact of mine's comment and I have not spoken to the PVL guy personally or seen any of the tapes, other than a 'leaked' clip.
But having said that, I do agree with Laurence in regard to the fact that it would be best for everyone if they were copied to a modern format and returned to the archives, via Kaleidoscope.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2010 12:08:26 GMT
At the end of the day though, any such viewings remain heresay. If someone of reliable reputation or status (e.g. Chris Perry or Dick Fiddy) had viewed items themselves then i'd take them at their word. Otherwise, no (unfortunately).
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Aug 31, 2010 12:49:32 GMT
Sent you a PM, Laurence.
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Post by Chris Barratt on Aug 31, 2010 15:02:36 GMT
I spoke to the PVL guy at length and he seemed pretty genuine. Genuinely interested parties would be welcome to sample any of the tapes. Apparantly the story goes that although he was middle-aged by the early 70's he had a friend at TOTP who regularly invited him to the studio for the show. Apparantly well aware of the BBC's less-than-wise attitude to their growing archive and with a great interest in the growing technology of video recording (and obviously the means to fund it) he set about recording the show for his own archive - at first clips, but as the availabilty of tapes grew and they became more affordable he elected to record full shows, diversifying into other shows by the mid-70's. The list shows this recording and archiving must have seriously dominated his life. He's sticking at £20K (or thereabouts) as he (quite rightly I guess) seeks some monetary reward for his efforts over the years, and he cannot understand how companies like the BBC are not prepared to pay such (to a company) a low sum. He regrets leaking out some of the early tapes (namely the very 74 stuff) especially as, since then, he has worked out how best to recover the U-matic recordings in their original colour. Whilst the overall value as "wiped" recordings could perhaps be called into question there is so much else to the collection other than TOTP it would be worthwhile, albeit a very hefty & involving, project to undertake - especially as I cannot see the Beeb repeating all the other "unrepeated" shows (especially in unbastardised form) whether or not they have them in their archive.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Aug 31, 2010 15:28:55 GMT
The guy I know who has seen part of the PVL archive, which was NOT leaked IS very reputable; a well-known authority on missing Rock and Pop TV.
I personally think £20k is easily worth the money.
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Sept 1, 2010 7:02:18 GMT
I'll put a tenner in for starters.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2010 7:56:49 GMT
Well, if the material listed is on these tapes and if he sticks out for such a huge sum (for visibly non-broadcast-quality recordings too - these are not even 2" masters or t/rs), it will eventually come to a time when the tapes are unplayable and the collection will be worth nothing. I'll repeat that if he collected this material out of a true concern for preservation then he'll want to see the tapes transferred a.s.a.p. by people who know what they're doing. Forget the cash return.
Anyway, this topic has been well covered in the past and doesn't need repeating now. Let's keep to the thread's original subject, which was relating to some specific TOTP clips rather than the PVL.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 8:01:10 GMT
Just and update on Slade squeeze me pleeze me. There is a strong possibility i may get hold of a tv perfortmance of them doing this. We wait and see.
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Post by Paul Watkins on Sept 17, 2010 12:17:32 GMT
That's great new Rob. it would be great to see any TV perf' of that one.
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Post by Brian Denton on Sept 17, 2010 17:44:17 GMT
Excuse my ignorance, but what or who is PVL ?
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Post by Chris H on Sept 17, 2010 19:34:17 GMT
Excuse my ignorance, but what or who is PVL ? Private Video Library - read back through earlier posts for more info. There is a website for it too, just put 'Private Video Library' into a search engine and you should find it.
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