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Post by Paul Cooksley on Jun 14, 2010 19:23:15 GMT
Hi all
I was having a read through Wikipedia's entry for the history of Blue Peter today and just wanted to claify a couple of things....
Now, before anyone points it out, I know that Wikipedia can be inherently inaccurate so I certainly take what I read sometimes with a pinch of salt - hence why I am asking the questions on here where I feel I'll get a more definative answer!
It states that "most" editions from 1964 onwards exist in the BBC archives. Is this true? I know the survival rate for BP (certainly compared to other shows of the time) is very good, but I didn't realise that the archive was "mostly" complete from 1964? If so, then I beleive this is the hindsight of the former editor, Biddy Baxter....
Also: It states that the first colour edition of BP was broadcast on 14 Sept 1970.... was it really this late? I assumed BP went colour in November 69? I know not all shows did of course, but I thought being a mainly live show it would have gone to colour earlier than Sept 1970?
Anyway, if anyone can shed any light on this, I'd be curious to know if these facts are indeed correct.....
Cheers
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Post by cperry on Jun 14, 2010 20:51:40 GMT
Hi Paul
Our Blue Peter: Inside the Archives book lists all archive holdings if you want a detailed list.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2010 13:11:13 GMT
Hi all I was having a read through Wikipedia's entry for the history of Blue Peter today and just wanted to claify a couple of things.... Now, before anyone points it out, I know that Wikipedia can be inherently inaccurate so I certainly take what I read sometimes with a pinch of salt - hence why I am asking the questions on here where I feel I'll get a more definative answer! It states that "most" editions from 1964 onwards exist in the BBC archives. Is this true? I know the survival rate for BP (certainly compared to other shows of the time) is very good, but I didn't realise that the archive was "mostly" complete from 1964? If so, then I beleive this is the hindsight of the former editor, Biddy Baxter.... Also: It states that the first colour edition of BP was broadcast on 14 Sept 1970.... was it really this late? I assumed BP went colour in November 69? I know not all shows did of course, but I thought being a mainly live show it would have gone to colour earlier than Sept 1970? Anyway, if anyone can shed any light on this, I'd be curious to know if these facts are indeed correct..... Cheers Autumn 1970 is right for BP going over to colour, Paul. Not everything went over to colour on 15/11/69 (Z-Cars is another instance). I wouldn't say that "most editions" of BP exist from 1964 onwards (that's a slight exaggeration) but the larger number do, although there are still some gaps till the end of the '60s.
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Post by Paul Cooksley on Jun 15, 2010 15:49:16 GMT
Laurence, thanks for that info....
....and Christopher, where is this book obtainable from?
Cheers
Paul
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Post by Mark Smith on Jun 15, 2010 17:25:32 GMT
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Post by dave1turner on Jun 17, 2010 16:53:32 GMT
Christopher/Laurence.....can you help me out on this thread, as i have tried the BP site, around 1966 or so my brother appered on the show with othe pupils for his school, on something (as i remember) a "Brainy or Brain Train"....i think Ronnie Barker was on it in a pin-stripe suit and Bowler hat....dont suppose you know of this, or still exists?
Many Thanks Dave Turner.
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Post by cperry on Jun 17, 2010 19:55:39 GMT
It's circa 1972 actually Dave, it exists and we showed the clip at the Bafta event two years ago.
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5.10.72 (963)* BABY FOX / VICTORIAN STUFFED ANIMALS / NOTTINGHAM GOOSE FAIR TK RPT ex-26.10.70 (John) / VT PRE-REC: THE STORY OF HAMPSTEAD HEATH (Written by Dorothy Smith / 16 captions by Bob Broomfield / Told by John Nettleton) / LIFEBOATS LATEST / VIGINTIPEDE - WITH RONNIE BARKER (JOHN FORGETS RONNIE BARKER'S NAME!)
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Post by dave1turner on Jun 18, 2010 13:34:37 GMT
Christopher....Many thanks for that, is it possible to obtain a copy?.....
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Post by cperry on Jun 18, 2010 15:26:03 GMT
There is no way of obtaining a copy from us, but anyone who appeared on the show could ask Contributor Access, based at BBC Glasgow.
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Post by Steve Williams on Jun 23, 2010 8:33:17 GMT
Autumn 1970 is right for BP going over to colour, Paul. Not everything went over to colour on 15/11/69 (Z-Cars is another instance). Richard Marson, in his fiftieth anniversary book, says that Biddy was actually quite reluctant to go into colour because she thought it was a waste of money and took too much out of the show's budget - which would also explain the delay. That Kaleidoscope event also showed what I think is the last monochrome BP in June 1974, where they start by apologising for the fact they're in a studio that hadn't been colourised but that the films will be in colour. In fact according to the book there were quite a lot of black and white BPs in 1974, I think the Thursday show was in monochrome for the whole of February. They must be among the last mainstream (ie non-school) networked shows in black and white?
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Post by Paul Cooksley on Jun 23, 2010 20:13:47 GMT
Autumn 1970 is right for BP going over to colour, Paul. Not everything went over to colour on 15/11/69 (Z-Cars is another instance). Richard Marson, in his fiftieth anniversary book, says that Biddy was actually quite reluctant to go into colour because she thought it was a waste of money and took too much out of the show's budget - which would also explain the delay. That Kaleidoscope event also showed what I think is the last monochrome BP in June 1974, where they start by apologising for the fact they're in a studio that hadn't been colourised but that the films will be in colour. In fact according to the book there were quite a lot of black and white BPs in 1974, I think the Thursday show was in monochrome for the whole of February. They must be among the last mainstream (ie non-school) networked shows in black and white? Really? I never realised that BP was sometimes shown in black and white still as late as 1974? Wonder why this was?
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Post by cperry on Jun 24, 2010 10:09:41 GMT
Industrial disputes were the cause I believe.
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Post by John Wall on Jun 24, 2010 23:46:10 GMT
Industrial disputes were the cause I believe. c Was that industrial action or industrial inaction :-) ?
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