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Post by Philip Hindley on May 26, 2010 10:32:59 GMT
Yeah here I go again on my favourite subject. I have often wondered if anyone ever tape recorded anything of this serial or even tried filming with a cine camera. Maybe something exists somewhere its a possibility even though its almost 60 years ago and so far nothing as come to light. A few years ago some film of Tommy Cooper was discovered (silent footage) of him rehearsing at Lime Grove Studios I think it was? So some footage or sound recording could be discovered or turn up one day...Just Like That!
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Post by Simon Vaughan - Archivist APTS on May 26, 2010 11:12:22 GMT
Hi Philip, Your one post has hit on two of the very things that the APTS Archive has been involved with! Firstly, The Quatermass Experiment - we have recently had donated to our archive holdings the (almost) complete collection of the sets designed by Richard Greenough (BBC Television 1948 - 1955), which includes Richard's designs for Episode 1 of The Quatermass Experiment. These include photographs of the sets that were built in Studio A at Ally Pally, as well as other documentation. Secondly, it was the APTS Archive that was responsible for the Tommy Cooper footage. We had it donated by Neil Campbell, son of Desmond "Cam" Campbell, who was Lighting Engineer for the BBC Television service. "Cam" took all the footage, as well as 1,200 photographs, during his time in television, as a record of his own work in television lighting. The film footage and photographs cover the years 1937 to the early 1950s. All the footage can be viewed on our YouTube Channel www.youtube.com/aptsarchive, along with other television history material we have uploaded. Your idea of someone at home filming the television image with a cine camera has produced one fascinating insight into pre-war television - the Coronation procession of 1937. Again this is featured on our YouTube Channel: The BBC Film Unit production of "Television The Coronation 1937" (again on our YouTube Channel), shows the television camera on the pavement as the royal coach goes past, while the home telerecording shows you the image the camera actually took. What information we have on the film sequence is also details in the description box on the upload. Such finds are rare, but who knows, someone out there might have other bit of home recorded television - only time will tell if they see the light of day!! |
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Post by Philip Hindley on May 26, 2010 19:26:32 GMT
yeah fascinating, I tried filming from a tv set once or twice in the 70s but I got the strobing effect the picture came out blueish but it was interesting to try. Recently I have tried filming from my computer with my camcorder, surprisingly it came out really well.Love to see photos of those sets, brilliant. How old would Richard Greenhough be now?
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Post by Philip Hindley on May 27, 2010 9:13:41 GMT
Love that colour footage of Ally Pally, and the other films, amazing. Does anyone know what Nigel Kneales widow did with the 'Thing' and the' Martian' did she keep them or donate them to a TV museum or anything? These are great TV relics that hopefully should be looked after.
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Post by Andrew Doherty on May 29, 2010 22:52:33 GMT
There have certainly been accounts of enthusiasts of the 1950s recording programmes using standard 8mm cine cameras and in one case 16mm cameras. The BBC Engineering Department did just such an experiment using 8mm recordings in 1955, two programmes of which are in the archives, viz. 'Contrasts' and 'Off The Record'. Here is a clip from 'Off The Record' (BBC), which is the earliest surviving British television show that concentrated on the music charts. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHs6X_sAmgIYours |
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Post by Simon Vaughan - Archivist APTS on May 31, 2010 8:50:05 GMT
Many thanks for the link Andrew. Is this really an 8mm recording off-screen? It's remarkably clear with none of the problems that earlier telerecordings suffer from. They have sync'd the camera to the tv image extremely well.
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Post by RWels on May 31, 2010 8:59:07 GMT
Recently I have tried filming from my computer with my camcorder, surprisingly it came out really well. There is software that can do that for you. It may make things easier, depending on what it is exactly that you want to record. |
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Post by Philip Hindley on May 31, 2010 12:07:32 GMT
Thanks for the help yeah I use my camcorder, obviously the sound is not brilliant as I record straight from the external mike, well actually it does come out pretty good providing no one walks in the room at the time, I just turn the volume up and it cuts out any external noise. I only do it this way because I cant be bothered with downloading,I only record short film clips such as trailers, excerpts etc;
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Post by Philip Hindley on May 31, 2010 12:15:27 GMT
Someone mentioned to me yesterday that they had seen on one of the forums that 3 episodes of THE QUATERMASS EXPERIMENT had been discovered is this true, and when was this? He pointed out its probably just one of those rumours,(I think it probably is an old post) I know they were never recorded and it is a very remote possibility that anything exists or was filmed as often stated but I would like to read that thread wherever that is. We were actually discussing THE TROLLENBERG TERROR /PLANET X TV serials whether they or anything exists.etc;
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Post by John Wall on May 31, 2010 15:34:53 GMT
Can anybody advise what sort of equipment was available at that time ? I think that Bob Monkhouse had started taping radio programmes by that time - but he was probably an exception.
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Post by Philip Hindley on May 31, 2010 16:08:45 GMT
When they did the 2005 remake they wanted Moray Watson to appear, but he was busy or something, that would have been a real treat.
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Post by Andrew Doherty on May 31, 2010 19:24:01 GMT
Many thanks for the link Andrew. Is this really an 8mm recording off-screen? It's remarkably clear with none of the problems that earlier telerecordings suffer from. They have sync'd the camera to the tv image extremely well. I believe it was a simplified 8mm telerecording machine. However, though it was much cheaper than recording from a 16mm and (even more so) 35mm telerecording unit, the quality was not considered good enough for quality control considerations. So, it was discontinued. The following are taken from the same show. Clip 1 Alma Cogan. (‘Dreamboat’). Clip 2 Max Bygraves (the ‘Pendulum Song’). Clip 3 The Four Aces (‘Stranger in Paradise’). www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAe6H-RkEY&feature=relatedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ8BYOCVJGwwww.youtube.com/watch?v=0HveyC6_6fM&feature=relatedYours, |
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Post by Philip Hindley on Jul 16, 2010 8:45:34 GMT
This Sunday marks the 57th year since THE QUATERMASS EXPERIMENT.
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Post by PAUL WOOD on Jul 31, 2010 10:41:19 GMT
Wasn't there a Mark Gatiss interview a few years back in Dr.Who magazine where he revealed that he had an audio recording of one of the Quatermass TV serials complete with continuity announcer? Does anyone know which serial?
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Post by Alan Hayes on Jul 31, 2010 11:33:49 GMT
He might have been referring to the warning at the start of Quatermass II ep 3 ("in the opinion of the BBC... etc") that has been retained on the film print.
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