TOP OF THE POPS-SURVIVING EDITIONS 1966 - 1976

[nicadare]

Apologies if this has been posted all ready but some very useful Top of the Pops information...

homepage.ntlworld.com/e.watkins/musictv/totp_full_shows.htm

homepage.ntlworld.com/e.watkins/musictv/interest.htm
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Why would the following edition from 1973 have been recorded in black & white, surely once the BBC started recording in colour during 1970 they would of stuck with colour?
Or is it more likely the master is lost and this is the negative or kinescope?


1st February 1973
Noel Edmonds

Status Quo - Paper Plane (Audience)
Thin Lizzy - Whisky In The Jar
Focus - Sylvia (Promo Video)
Carly Simon - You're So Vain (Audience)
Tony Christie - Avenues & Alleyways
Electric Light Orchestra - Roll Over Beethoven
Olivia Newton-John - Take Me Home Country Roads
Sweet - Blockbuster
Stevie Wonder - Superstition (Pan's People)

[Deleted]

This particular show was probably made as a rough viewing copy. It does actually look pretty bad compared to all other surviving shows in black and white suffering much tramline damage and being dirty in places - it is a 16mm t/r. So, was probably done for reference, maybe at somebody's request.

It is a bit weird since the previous week's show is in pristine colour but then there are no more complete shows for several months in the archive.

[Deleted]

Apr 4, 2010 9:56:48 GMT nicadare said:

Why would the following edition from 1973 have been recorded in black & white, surely once the BBC started recording in colour during 1970 they would of stuck with colour?
Or is it more likely the master is lost and this is the negative or kinescope?

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It was made in colour but only a b/w telerecording survives. Not sure why it was made but probably a sales or reference copy. All TOTP were made in colour after 15/11/69 although a few others after that date also only exist now in b/w.

[Paul Watkins]

I remember reading somewhere that during 1973 the BBC & ITV resorted to filming some shows in b/w due to the energy crisis at the time. or was i reading a made up story maybe?. Anyone have any info on this at all?

[Deleted]

I don't think that ever happened although a few editions were missed altogether at that time for various reasons. You're probably mixing it up with the ITV 1970-71 strike where some episodes of a number of programmes were made in b/w mid-run.

[Paul Watkins]

Laurence you're probably right, now i think of it. On the Buses being a classic example of mid season b/w episodes due to the strike.

[Chris Barratt]

1/2/73 had reared it's head in the archives by the time the 1000th show was put together in 1983 as they used footage from it to look back, as had 15/2/68 (saved in the archives by the end of 73), 27/2/69 and the 3 b&w early '70 shows. Strange that the 'special' TOTP's from the 80's used so much of the b&w recoveries and less of the shows that survived in full colour at the BBC. I'm hoping the colourisation process will eventually be applied to all the b&w recovered TOTP's

[Thomas Walsh]

Below is only one of the many dissapointments of a non-colour edition of this particular episode surviving.....



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[davemachin]

I daresay that the telerecording has the chroma dots though, so it is possible to restore it if the will is there.

Dave

[Deleted]

I doubt it would be a film recording. The only other possibility I can think of is a Shibaden copy (or similar such as EIAJ) - though they were far from broadcast quality.

[Deleted]

You are obviously not up on what is in the BBC archives, John!
This is the surviving Feb '73 edition so it IS a film t/r copy. Most BBC b/w t/r prints have the chroma dots present too so colour recovery would be possible in theory if so. I don't know where Shibaden (or any home formats for that matter) comes into the equation.

[Pete Seaton]

It is the b/w film copy one thats held in the BBC Archive and it holds tramlines on the footage, probably recorded on a domestic reel to reel. it was returned as we see it way before the 1000th TOTP as a segment on that show and was used to play a trick on Noel Edmonds, and Whiskey in the Jar was also repeated many times on other shows (the same one with Tramlines in b/w)

some copies have the BBC TVL clock on and some have it from the Einsfestival repeat.

ps does anyone know which edition that the swans hearts going under the bridge is from c 1972/73 (as seen in TV Heroes c1992)

[nicadare]

I watched "Guitar Heroes" on BBC4 last night, Duane Eddy performed in the studio 'Play Me Like You Play your guitar' listed as 1973 when in fact it was 13th March 1975 (available still on the BBC player)
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lkrr7

Do the BBC actually know what they are doing?

[Brian Evans]

Short answer is no they don't!

Just a quick question, is the Who clip a rehearsal performance? Just there is no audience present just like the Stones Brown sugar clip.

Brian

[Ray Langstone (was saintsray)]

It's not a rehearsal shot. In some cases, due to various things - band availability, industrial disputes, various different reasons, bands were shot without an audience and 'inserts' were filmed.