Toppop - Under rated on the forum??

[nicadare]

Is it me or is the Dutch music show Toppop under rated on this forum?
The show which began on 1st December 1970 and ended on the 4th April 1988 can boast one of the best music archives in Europe.
The Toppop archive appears to be in good condition, although oddly from late March-September 1975 the tapes (according to the Toppop book from 1999) have been 'wiped.'
There are no enties for T. Rex either, perhaps T. Rex were not popular in Holland?
There are some survivors, there usually are, such as Abba in the studio performing SOS.
The database seems very impressive with just about every significant artist/group making a studio appearance.
And from what I can gather much of the footage is on 16mm tape, is this normal practice?

[Deleted]

Do you mean 16mm FILM or do you mean videotape, Nic? The mm refers only to the gauge of film.

[Peter Stirling]

Why should it be under rated?

People only go by what they have seen or what they remember?
Toppop was not shown in the UK and therefore most people in the UK havent a clue what was on it.

Paul Watkins and many others puts together pop show databases on this forum , I am sure if somebody could give them performance details of Toppop they would be happy to put them up?

[Paul Watkins]

Peter, i totally agree with that point.
The problem is that very few people on this forum would have seen the original transmissions and the information of who was on toppop is not readily available.
The database for toppop is no longer online and even when it was the only way of searching it was individual acts/songs. It would be nice to have a webpage on Toppop & hits a gogo to see what was on it and what's missing.

If anybody has that info, i'd be more than willing to create the listings for this forum.

[Deleted]

I'm bemused by the title of this thread too! But if people are able to supply episode guides to some of these European pop shows, i'd be very pleased to see them posted here as little is known about some of them. If details were known, i'm sure they would be rated VERY highly! ;D

[nicadare]

Mar 27, 2010 10:04:40 GMT @laurencepiper said:

Do you mean 16mm FILM or do you mean videotape, Nic? The mm refers only to the gauge of film.

16mm film

Reference the Toppop database if you wish to know if any paticular artist/s appeared on the programme I can answer.

I know many people on the forum can receive broadcasts from the Astra satellite at 19.2 degrees, during 1999-2001 on the free to view Dutch stations Ned 1 & Ned 2 there were many Toppop programmes broadcast.
There are also 4 double DVDs released which include the following artists:


Earth & Fire - Weekend
Blondie - Denis
George McCrae - Rock your baby
Kim Wilde - View from a bridge
Barry White - Never, never gonna give you up
Mud - Dyna-mite
Iggy Pop - Lust for life
Madness - Embarrassment
Spandau Ballet - True
Al Stewart - Year of the cat
Imagination - Just an illusion
Grace Jones - La vie en rose
Mel & Kim - Respectable
Commodores - Brick house
George Baker Selection - Paloma blanca
Racey - Lay your love on me
Hot Chocolate - Girl crazy
The Selecter - On my radio
Feargal Sharkey - A good heart
Nazareth - Love hurts
The Stranglers - Golden brown
Dr. Hook - When you're in love with a beautiful woman
Erasure - Sometimes
Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's delight
Charlene - I've never been to me
Level 42 - Love games
Kool & the Gang - Celebration
Boys Town Gang - Can't take my eyes off you
Mel & Kim - Showing Out
Billy Preston & Syreeta - It Will Come In Time
Kim Wilde - You Keep Me Hangin' On
Marshall, Hain - Dancing In The City
Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Pussycat - Mississippi
Tavares - Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel
Johnny Hates Jazz - I Don't Want To Be A Hero
Roxy Music - Avalon
Elton John - Your Song
Alessi - Oh Lori
The Rubettes - Sugar Baby Love
Third World - Now That We've Found Love
John Miles - Music
KC & The Sunshine Band - I'm Your Boogie Man
Robert Palmer - Every Kinda People
Brotherhood Of Man - Save Your Kisses For Me
Culture Club - Time (Clock Of The Heart)
Soft Cell - Tainted Love
Teach In - Ding-A-Dong
Boney M. - Daddy Cool
Baccara - Yes Sir, I Can Boogie
Status Quo - Down, Down
Mai Tai - History
Leo Sayer - You Make Me Feel Like Dancing
10cc - I'm Not In Love
Talk Talk - Such A Shame
Nena - 99 Luftballons
Slade - Mama Weer All Crazee Now
Queen - Killer Queen
Baccara - Sorry, I'm A Lady
Kajagoogoo - Too Shy
Gerry Rafferty - City To City
Duran Duran - The Wild Boys
Eruption - I Can't Stand The Rain
Little River Band - Home On Monday
The Stranglers - No More Heroes
Tavares - Don't Take Away The Music
Jim Diamond - I Should Have Known Better
Peter Tosh - Johnny B. Goode
The Brothers Johnson - Strawberry Letter 23
Kool & The Gang - Ooh La, La, La (Let's Go Dancing)
David Bowie - Heroes
Blondie - Heart Of Glass
Imagination - Music And Lights
Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel - Make Me Smile
Philip Lynott - Old Town
The Gap Band - Burn Rubber
Wet Wet Wet - Wishing I Was Lucky
Pussycat - My Broken Souvenirs
Opus - Live Is Life
Kim Wilde - Kids In America
Guys 'n' Dolls - You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
Lloyd Cole & The Commotions - Rattlesnakes
Status Quo - The Wanderer
Hot Chocolate - No Doubt About It
Robert Palmer - Looking For Clues
Stars On 45 - Stars On 45
Robbie Nevil - C'est la vie
UB40 - Please Don't Make Me Cry
Suzi Quatro - She's In Love With You
Mud - Rocket
Swing Out Sister - Breakout
Fun Boy Three feat. Bananarama - It Ain't What You Do It's The Way That You Do It
The Style Council - My Ever Changing Moods
Talk Talk - Life's What You Make It
Nicole - Ein bißchen Frieden
Feargal Sharkey - You Little Thief
Cutting Crew - (I Just) Died In Your Arms
Bryan Ferry - Slave To Love
Gary Moore - Over The Hills And Far Away
Dr. Hook - Sharing The Night Together
Boney M. - Rivers Of Babylon
Joe Cocker - Unchain My Heart

[Jozsef Sos]

I have recommended to your attention a 188 p. useful guide-book, listing all the broadcast dates and running orders of all the music shows run in Dutch TVs (NCRV, AVRO, TROS, VARA, VPRO) from 1960-75, including 29 series for example Campus, Combo, Eddy Go Round Show, Fanclub, Fan Fan, Jam, Moef Ga Ga, Popzien, Toppop, Waauw, Session, Piknik, Tiener TV, and so on, 86 TV specials from different artists and groups + illustrated tons of exclusive colour and b/w photos and a DVD with a 75 minutes documentary and a Troggs, Marbles, Flaming Youth and Chicory Tip performance.
The book cover referring these
www.universalmusic.nl
www.brmusic.nl
And this publication metioned here also
dagelinks.nl/index.php/2009/11/02/popmuziek-op-tv/
www.cdhal.nl/index.php?id=toon&item=DVD8829
This book lists all the Toppop episodes in time order including the performers and songs performed between p. 73-112

[nicadare]

The database is useful but the music selection on the DVD is drab compared to the 2 'Testament' DVD box sets.
The obvious choice Marbles video would of been 'Only One Woman' & Troggs 'Wild Thing' or 'Love is all Around'.
A Top of the Pops database in a book would be useful.
;D
The Troggs - Anyway you want me
The Marbles - The walls fell down
Flaming Youth - Earthglow
Chicory Tip- Son of my father

[Tim Disney]

I'd agree that as a European show, nobody's really had a chance to see any of it in the UK. It certainly hasn't been as widely exposed as TOTP or Beat Club which even got late-night screenings as compilations on the ITV network back in 1987-88.

I think if you have any information about the show it would be a good idea to share it in an online resource. This would also encourage some television footage researchers to dig performances out of the collection for use in documentaries and compilation dvds. Although I believe the onus is really on the right's holder to do the donkey work and market their collection for such use, but anything you put online would go that little bit towards the further exposure of what is currently available.

It's a sad fact that since the advent of the internet, a whole generation of lazy researchers that have come up through the industry who believe that if it's not online, it probably doesn't exist.

[Paul Watkins]

nicadare wrote

Reference the Toppop database if you wish to know if any paticular artist/s appeared on the programme I can answer

Not sure if this info is correct but did 'the Move' appear on top pop , TV-Byen, Gladsaxe, on 20th May 1967. and does it survive in the archive?

[Pete Seaton]

The TOTP database in a book has been done by myself with Kaleidoscope, this book is out of print being currently updated and will be back on sale in the future, though there are a few copies changing hands for silly money.

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