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Post by Anthony Harvison on May 25, 2004 12:28:22 GMT
I'm just wondering how much of Hancock's half hour is still in the archives. Do series five and six survive complete? What about his post-BBC work? Can anyone help
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Post by lfbarfe on May 25, 2004 15:00:24 GMT
I'm just wondering how much of Hancock's half hour is still in the archives. Do series five and six survive complete? What about his post-BBC work? Can anyone help In short - yes, series five and six exist in their entirety, on 16mm telerecordings, as does the 1963 ATV series. From memory, very little of Hancock's [the 1967 ABC series] survives, althought that's probably for the best. Longer and more detailed answers to your queries - including the archival status of just about everything else Hancock did - can all be found in 'Tony Hancock, Artiste' by Roger Wilmut. It's been out of print for yonks, but there are currently 29 copies for sale on www.abebooks.com at prices ranging from £5 for an ex-library hardback to £30 for a mint condition copy of same. dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?tn=tony+hancock&ph=2&imageField.y=18&imageField.x=31&cmid=hp-search-form&an=roger+wilmut&sts=tHope this helps. It's one of those books that no home should be without. L
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Post by Noddy on May 27, 2004 1:09:02 GMT
The superb railwaycuttings.co.uk contains a detailed guide to the BBC & ATV series - including what survives.
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Post by Laurence Piper on May 31, 2004 9:01:06 GMT
Yes, the ATV 13 part series exists in full and some of the episodes are quite good (not all). It's certainly worth releasing on DVD when you consider both Hancock's status and also that much weaker material from other artists gets thrown out to the general public all the time (and they've all been widely leaked out on VHS for years anyway)! It's all down to Hancock's eatate again, I suppose (although how they came to be in a situation where they were calling the shots like that, rather than ATV who made it - and today Carlton - I don't know!)
Aside from a large number of the BBC shows, the only other things surviving featuring Hancock on TV can be listed concisely: the first series of Jack Hylton's Tony Hancock Sow, the ATV Hancock series, The Government Inspector, 1958 Xmas Night With The Stars, Hancock At The Royal Festival Hall, one edition of The Blackpool Show, the unfinished Australian series, a 5 minute chunk of one of the ABC Hancocks episodes recorded off-air plus the Face To Face interview.
Hope this is of use.
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Post by Matthew K Sharp on Jun 1, 2004 3:25:30 GMT
The 1963 Hancock series, IIRC, was a co-pro between ATV and Hancock's company, Maconkey Productions.
As for other Hancock material still existing, there's also the 16 minute chunk from Australian TV - Hancock doing his variety act in late 1967 on the "Nancye" show (it's listed in Wilmut).
Oh, and for completists only, there's a couple of minutes of silent 8mm film of Hancock playing backyard cricket in Australia in 1968...
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Post by Jim Schwartau on Jun 1, 2004 12:34:42 GMT
Aside from a large number of the BBC shows, the only other things surviving featuring Hancock on TV can be listed concisely: the first series of Jack Hylton's Tony Hancock Sow, the ATV Hancock series, The Government Inspector, 1958 Xmas Night With The Stars, Hancock At The Royal Festival Hall, one edition of The Blackpool Show, the unfinished Australian series, a 5 minute chunk of one of the ABC Hancocks episodes recorded off-air plus the Face To Face interview. There's also a telerecording of the 19-minute long insert where a very drunk Hancock is being interviewed by Denis Tuohy on "Late Night Line-Up", transmitted 5 October 1965. Jim.
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Post by Ted Rogers on Jun 1, 2004 13:54:54 GMT
The superb railwaycuttings.co.uk contains a detailed guide to the BBC & ATV series - including what survives. Of course that should be www.railwaycuttings.co.uk, otherwise you'll see nothing. Never have 3 www's been worth so much...
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Post by Anthony Harvison on Jun 1, 2004 16:00:14 GMT
Thanks veru much for the info - I read on the railway cuttings site that the Flight of the Red Shadow had apparently been discovered in a Blackpool junk shop! Has anyone heard anything about this and its possible recovery?
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Post by lfbarfe on Jun 1, 2004 17:04:42 GMT
Thanks veru much for the info - I read on the railway cuttings site that the Flight of the Red Shadow had apparently been discovered in a Blackpool junk shop! Has anyone heard anything about this and its possible recovery? Wasn't that an audio-only recording that they found?
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Post by Mike on Jun 4, 2004 18:36:34 GMT
>Wasn't that an audio-only recording that they found?
Yes, unless they've found a video since. It was played at the 1997 Tony Hancock society convention.
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Post by David Buck on Jun 5, 2004 2:37:22 GMT
There's a few bits of newsreel footage of Hancock as well - a couple of bits from film premieres and iirc. one from a celebrity wedding , rather ghoulishly there's also footage of the flat where he died including the pill bottles.
Roger wilmut also mentions a lighthouse keeper sketch extracted from another ATV variety show.
with info on Granada holdings so scare I suppose it's remotely possible that the appropriate edition of "Scene at 6.30" might also survive.
There's also the programme "Telescope - Tony Hancock" from the canadian broadcasting corporation - detailed on the canadian national archives site
I think it's an original interview conducted during his north american promotional tour for "the rebel" - though others have disagreed before suggesting it's likely to be the "face to face" interview re-cut to include clips.
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Post by Andy Henderson on Jun 5, 2004 12:09:13 GMT
something I wish I hadn't seen was the suicide note, which is reproduced in the Joffe book. Fascinating book, but that desperate note is one of the most depressing and nihilistic displays of private intrusion. It should never have been printed in that form. For those who haven't seen it, you can see the handwriting reduced to an incomprehensible scrawl.
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Post by Pam Rostron on Jun 7, 2004 10:43:10 GMT
I think the Lighthouse sketch that David Buck refers to is actually part of the Hylton collection. It's years since I looked at it, but I seem to remember that it had no sound, and was from a stage show that Hancock was in (possibly at the Adelphi, or the Talk of the Town). It was this show that he went AWOL from, and which resulted in Hylton insisting the do the TV progs instead of working out his stage contract.
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Post by Ted Rogers on Jul 31, 2004 0:25:51 GMT
There's also a telerecording of the 19-minute long insert where a very drunk Hancock is being interviewed by Denis Tuohy on "Late Night Line-Up", transmitted 5 October 1965. Jim. Hancock was in fact interviewd by Michael Dean, and not 'Denis Tuohy' for that edition of 'Late Night Line Up'. And as for Hancock being 'very drunk', I think I'll have to beg to differ on that...! "An in-depth, though more relaxed interview (if/when compared to the interview he had with John Freeman, for 'Face To Face'.
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Post by Ted Rogers on Jul 31, 2004 0:26:55 GMT
There's also a telerecording of the 19-minute long insert where a very drunk Hancock is being interviewed by Denis Tuohy on "Late Night Line-Up", transmitted 5 October 1965. Jim. Hancock was in fact interviewd by Michael Dean, and not 'Denis Tuohy' for that edition of 'Late Night Line Up'. And as for Hancock being 'very drunk', I think I'll have to beg to differ on that...! "An in-depth, though more relaxed interview. if/when compared to the interview he had with John Freeman, for 'Face To Face'.
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