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Post by David Saunders on Dec 19, 2008 18:16:23 GMT
Unless otherwise stated, which programmes were these broadcasted on? au.youtube.com/watch?v=hn0ZJHVH17I – The Union Gap featuring Gary Puckett-Young Girl (Promo Film) 1968 (Date unknown), b/w uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aBl7bERuJdo – Spanky and Our Gang-Like to Get to Know You 1968 (Date unknown): Performance? or Promo Film? - Colour recording es.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfkBwFyXgs - Middle of the Road-Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep 1971 (Date unknown): Performance www.youtube.com/watch?v=_96NDtf-9Ok - Middle of the Road-Tweedle Dee Tweedle Dum 1971 (Date unknown): Performance www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC02EnshI5U - Electric Light Orchestra-10538 Overture (Promo Film) 1972 (Date unknown) Official EMI promo recovered from “The Old Grey Whistle Test” - Exists at the BBC www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwk91j0vGAQ – The Sweet-The Six Teens (0:00-4:49) - 1974, Which edition? (27/06, 04/07, 11/07, 18/07, 25/07 or 01/08?): Charted for 7 weeks from 13 July 1974 onwards; You’re Not Wrong (5:11-7:19); Lady Starlight with closing credits (7:19-9:23) Originates from "Lift Off with Ayshea" 1974 (Date unknown): Performances youtube.com/watch?v=ETfqdGcIvdA - Hello-New York Groove 1975 (Date unknown): Performance Originates from “Supersonic”, Granada ITV es.youtube.com/watch?v=bkMXnk16kiE - Elton John-Philadelphia Freedom 1975 (Date unknown): Performance uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5c81X6BiI0Y - Kraftwerk-Autobahn (Film) September 1975 (Date unknown) Shown on “Sounds of the Seventies”, originating from “Tomorrow’s World” with narration on how the German group constructed their song - Exists at the BBC www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDPpSedks9Y - Slade-Let's Call It Quits 1976 (Date unknown): Performance Originates from “Supersonic”, Granada ITV |
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Post by Peter Elliott on Dec 19, 2008 19:52:54 GMT
OK... the details mostly seem to be correct.
Spanky and Our Gang comes from The Ed Sullivan Show
Middle Of The Road... Chirpy is from Disco 71 (German TV) and I think Tweedle comes from that show as well. Not completely sure!
Sweet - Whilst an appearance by them does exist on "Lift Off..." I think this one comes from another Granada TV show called "45" which was hosted by David "Kid" Jensen.
All the others as far as I can tell have the correct show details. I'm not entirely sure though if the OGWT actually broadcast the ELO film or not. That film was sent to them and found in their archive but it doesn't mean it was necessarily used on the show.
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Post by David Saunders on Dec 20, 2008 13:28:46 GMT
OK... the details mostly seem to be correct. Spanky and Our Gang comes from The Ed Sullivan Show Middle Of The Road... Chirpy is from Disco 71 (German TV) and I think Tweedle comes from that show as well. Not completely sure! Sweet - Whilst an appearance by them does exist on "Lift Off..." I think this one comes from another Granada TV show called "45" which was hosted by David "Kid" Jensen. All the others as far as I can tell have the correct show details. I'm not entirely sure though if the OGWT actually broadcast the ELO film or not. That film was sent to them and found in their archive but it doesn't mean it was necessarily used on the show. Thanks for updating me on information you know on the recordings from different programmes. It's good to know that the ELO film exists at the BBC. As to Spanky and Our Gang, I'm almost sure this is a studio performance rather than a promo film but have put both descriptions until I'm sure. It's a very catchy song which never charted in the UK, and having a few Youtube links to this and other songs enables us all to see the faces behind the voices. I'd wondered about those Middle of the Road performances. While Chirpy exists on Top of the Pops, Tweedle doesn't, so having gaps filled by Disco and other programmes enables many songs to be existing overseas or/and in the UK which would otherwise leave big gaps in archive recordings. Unfortunately I didn't note the link, but the 45 show presented by Kid Jensen that you believe is where the Sweet sessions stem from has also been uploaded (possibly still active) in black and white. I've heard of the show but presume that all editions were broadcast in colour, so more than likely, whatever I saw, I think with closing credits, is a private recording, possibly a performance that exists outside of ITV. If I ever find the clip, I'll pop it into this thread. |
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Post by Paul Watkins on Jan 4, 2009 16:39:54 GMT
ie.youtube.com/watch?v=2r2i2Mq0twk&feature=related – Slade-Skweeze Me Pleeze Me (Promo Film) 1973 (Date unknown), b/w and colour This was never transmitted on TV. The promo was made in 1999 from clips from the BBC Slade documentary from the same year. (you can see one join at .30 secs into the promo). I still have the original that i made on VHS and then posted on 'WinMX' (remember that one?). It's amazing how far round the internet this one got!. Hope that helps clear this one up.
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Post by David Saunders on Jan 4, 2009 17:05:09 GMT
ie.youtube.com/watch?v=2r2i2Mq0twk&feature=related – Slade-Skweeze Me Pleeze Me (Promo Film) 1973 (Date unknown), b/w and colour This was never transmitted on TV. The promo was made in 1999 from clips from the BBC Slade documentary from the same year. (you can see one join at .30 secs into the promo). I still have the original that i made on VHS and then posted on 'WinMX' (remember that one?). It's amazing how far round the internet this one got!. Hope that helps clear this one up. I'd never heard of WinMX before your message but thanks for pointing this out.  I'll look out for the join at 30 seconds through the promo! Although this was never transmitted, it's good to know there's recordings out there of songs that in many cases no longer exist at the BBC or even outside the BBC for viewing. |
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Jan 4, 2009 19:03:41 GMT
There is a promo for this in the US TV Archives:
ARTIST: SLADE
SONG TITLE: SKWEEZE ME PLEEZE ME
Reel#: VM-1706
Year: 1973
Timecode: 01 49 47
Color/B&W: COLOR
Live/Sync/Promo: PROMO VIDEO
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Post by David Saunders on Jan 4, 2009 19:12:58 GMT
There is a promo for this in the US TV Archives: ARTIST: SLADE SONG TITLE: SKWEEZE ME PLEEZE ME Reel#: VM-1706 Year: 1973 Timecode: 01 49 47 Color/B&W: COLOR Live/Sync/Promo: PROMO VIDEO Thanks for this information, Gary. Is the Slade photo from an existing Top of the Pops? (on the Database all are wiped for How Does It Feel on 06/02, 20/02 and 06/03/75) and which edition is it from?, or if not, which programme does this come from? |
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Jan 4, 2009 21:39:24 GMT
David The above performance of How Does It Feel (from the movie Slade In Flame) comes from Crackerjack: CRACKERJACK LLV1393A TX 07/03/1975 ex LIVE PKGE PROG 0:39:28 / in C: ? CHECK Children's prog pres by Ed STEWART, with Peter GLAZE, Don MACLEAN and Jan HUNT and special guests Slade and Peter SKELLERN. >Telerecording with film seq's ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SONGS PERFORMED Slade perform: How Does it Feel (dur 04m15s) Don & Jan perform: Please Mr. Postman (dur 01m11s) Peter & Don perform: Make Me Smile (Come Up & See Me)(dur 01m25s) Now I'm Here (dur 01m31s) Jan, Peter, Don & Ed perform: Angel Face (dur 01m27s) Peter SKELLERN performs: Hold On to Love (dur 02m35s) REPORTERS : STEWART Ed CONTRIBUTORS : BISHOP Phil (DIR), BOYLE Ken (SCR), GLAZE Peter, HARE Tony (SCR), HEDLEY Bob (SCR), HUNT Jan, ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 / 1 SUBCAT LONPROG FILING DATE 07/03/1975 CIN LISC 1699050 MORE Y There's another performance of How Does It Feel held by Granada on The Russel Harty Programme (which was released on the very best of Slade DVD: RUSSELL HARTY (SHOW 21) Musical Guests: Slade singing: "How Does It Feel?" First TX date: 1975-02-07 uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q28WYKnGNNEAnd there's another performance in the Dutch Toppop archive: 01-02-1975 Slade met "How does it feel". 00:38:11 - 00:42:59 The TOTP performance of 06/02/75 resides in the private video library:  |
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Post by David Saunders on Jan 4, 2009 23:14:44 GMT
Thanks for your update, Gary. It turns out that the Crackerjack transmission date was similar to the Top of the Pops dates that I’d first assumed!
Also, the name “Slade in Flame” rings a bell. I’ve heard the soundtrack at some point but have yet to see the film footage.
It’s good that Crackerjack survives well from 1975 onwards and that some editions also exist before that, including Slade’s performance and that a Top of the Pops performance exists privately. Even if not all at the BBC, it’s invaluable having private recordings which gives further representation to the TOTP archives. I see that Peter Skellern was also on the billing, who I assume is still performing today.
Ed Stewart must have taken over from Michael Aspel sooner than I thought. I’d assumed it was 1976 when Ed first hosted the show but it just goes to show! I remember Ed, Peter, Don and Jan very vividly.
Back to How Does It Feel, I’m also pleased that this exists on The Russell Harty Programme and that it’s been released (I’d not seen this performance before), and The Netherlands have a performance on Toppop. These nicely compliment the Top of the Pops performance, and whether or not housed by each broadcaster, it seems that many songs and artists are well represented, even where Top of the Pops no longer has a recording.
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Post by Pete Seaton on Jan 5, 2009 1:17:00 GMT
ELO on OGWT
this fills that bit in
THE OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST 16/05/72
Presented by Richard Williams
Beach Boys - You need a mess of help to stand alone (VT)
Beach Boys - You need a mess of help to stand alone (Incomplete)
Jerry Lee Lewis - Whole lotta shakin goin on’ (Studio)
Magna Carta -
Rolling Stones - Honky tonk women
Electric Light Orchestra - 10538 (Promo)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 5:28:37 GMT
es.youtube.com/watch?v=bkMXnk16kiE - Elton John-Philadelphia Freedom 1975 (Date unknown): Performance – Originates from “Soul Train" Original USA broadcast date is May 17, 1975
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Post by David Saunders on Jan 5, 2009 20:15:03 GMT
ELO on OGWT this fills that bit in THE OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST 16/05/72 Presented by Richard Williams Beach Boys - You need a mess of help to stand alone (VT) Beach Boys - You need a mess of help to stand alone (Incomplete) Jerry Lee Lewis - Whole lotta shakin goin on’ (Studio) Magna Carta - Rolling Stones - Honky tonk women Electric Light Orchestra - 10538 (Promo) Ah, so 10538 Overture did get broadcast on OWTG after all! It's good news that the BBC recovered it and presumably the whole 16/05/72 show. |
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Post by David Saunders on Jan 5, 2009 20:16:25 GMT
es.youtube.com/watch?v=bkMXnk16kiE - Elton John-Philadelphia Freedom 1975 (Date unknown): Performance – Originates from “Soul Train" Original USA broadcast date is May 17, 1975 Thanks for the transmission update. With Top of the Pops (other than when recordings appeared more than once, especially on multiple occasions), it's often not easy to establish the exact transmission dates of other UK programmes and programmes from the USA and elsewhere, but this is very useful for future reference. |
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Jan 5, 2009 22:24:47 GMT
Slade first:
This is the official promo (which is included on the very best of Slade DVD)
The Arrows had their own TV show and the promo was also shown on it, intro by the lead singer Alan Merril.
Quits also exists on Jim'll Fix It Tx Date 06/03/1976
Slade perform "Let's Call it Quit's" (03m29s) wearing red noses.
The first Glitter Band Angel face comes from TTTV (Tyne Tees) programme The Geordie Scene
The second comes from German TV Channel N3's "Oldie Paraden" 1996
Mungo Jerry tx date Disco Nr. 34 27.10.1973 Alright x3
Hello New york groove Disco tx date Nr. 60 06.12.1975
Albert Hammond Disco tx date Nr. 32 25.08.1973
Mud Dynamite is a dutch promo
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Post by David Saunders on Jan 5, 2009 22:43:45 GMT
Slade first: This is the official promo (which is included on the very best of Slade DVD) The Arrows had their own TV show and the promo was also shown on it, intro by the lead singer Alan Merril. Quits also exists on Jim'll Fix It Tx Date 06/03/1976 Slade perform "Let's Call it Quit's" (03m29s) wearing red noses. The first Glitter Band Angel face comes from TTTV (Tyne Tees) programme The Geordie Scene The second comes from German TV Channel N3's "Oldie Paraden" 1996 Mungo Jerry tx date Disco Nr. 34 27.10.1973 Alright x3 Hello New york groove Disco tx date Nr. 60 06.12.1975 Albert Hammond Disco tx date Nr. 32 25.08.1973 Mud Dynamite is a dutch promo Thanks again, Gary. You and the others are brilliant with your facts on programmes whose identities I wouldn't know where to start from! The first Slade recording with Slade's name in reverse on a drum looks like a promo film on reflection. Sometimes it can get very confusing when studio performances and promo films have similarities. If you ever discover the sources of the latter two links of Let's Call It Quits by Slade, please let me know for interest and comparison. Slade are certainly very well represented, both at and outside the BBC, which is very good news. From what you've said, The Arrows-A Touch Too Much performance isn't from Top of the Pops after all. No reflection on owners who upload incorrect information, sometimes they say programmes are from "TOTP" or "Top of the Pops" and it turns out they're from completely different programmes. I got caught out when I initially identified Hello's New York Groove as from TOTP (that's how it was billed) - The owner who uploaded this clip says "Touch Too Much" by the band Arrows, which aired on Top Of The Pops in 1974. This Mickie Most produced RAK-EMI 45 rpm record was in the top ten for 8 weeks, peaking at #6 in June of '74, and was a debut hit record for the band. Arrows are Alan Merrill lead vocals and bass guitar, Jake Hooker guitar and backing vocals, and Paul Varley, drums and backing vocals." However, the song is cued in at an Arrows dartboard after Alan Merril's introduction which is omitted from the clip. My goodness!, I was wayout with my guesses of the Glitter Band performances - I thought the first was from Supersonic and the second from the early 1980s. The group must have had long hair well into the 1990s after all. It looks as though Disco saved the day in many cases, both transmitting Top of the Pops performances and several UK acts (not TOTP performances) who appeared on the show. It makes me wonder why the BBC felt the need to junk so much, yet the Germans and Swedes managed to retain most of their archives, but they've certainly filled in quite a lot of gaps of what would otherwise be music lost forever. That Dutch promo of Mud might be the only recording of this song in existence. Even then, I'm not sure how many recordings of music broadcast on shows other than Top of the Pops exists in the original archives, as from what I gather, Australia, the USA and The Netherlands, probably all countries have junked a fair amount of their archives. The transmission dates that you and others have posted nicely compliment your other information and that of the other members, which is also invaluable for the rest of the forum team. |
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