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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Nov 27, 2008 15:07:25 GMT
If the mods think this is too off topic, feel free to wipe!
Steptoe and son BBC4 play
Bonekickers
Crumpet
All of these shows will be reedited if shown again (ever)
So will uncensored versions of these be considered rare and unusual in 50 years time I wonder?
If this trend continues we may find that shows are shown just once, then disappear.
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Post by Dave Andrews on Nov 27, 2008 15:21:42 GMT
Ditto Jemima Rooper's rendition of 'Downtown' in Lost in Austen ?
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Post by Alan Jeffries on Nov 27, 2008 16:07:13 GMT
I think you could be right, but only for repeats on TV. I would hope that the DVD releases of shows would be complete and unedited. Of course the commercial stations are the worst offenders. Nip a bit here for another ad and so forth, but Old Auntie does the same.
More problems arise with older shows that have to have their rights and royalties re-negotiated.
I find myself watching less and less TV and waiting for the DVDs to come out of shows I really want to see.
Alan
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Post by Peter Elliott on Nov 27, 2008 16:17:16 GMT
I think you could be right, but only for repeats on TV. I would hope that the DVD releases of shows would be complete and unedited. Of course the commercial stations are the worst offenders. Nip a bit here for another ad and so forth, but Old Auntie does the same. More problems arise with older shows that have to have their rights and royalties re-negotiated. I find myself watching less and less TV and waiting for the DVDs to come out of shows I really want to see. Alan Yes, but even then, not all DVD's have the unedited, as transmitted versions. Classic examples being "Only Fools and Horses" which had various cuts because of music clearance issues as did "Grange Hill"... "Grange Hill" was the worst offender since they not only suffered from entire scenes being cut out altogether but was also filmised as well... I'll stick to my off air AVI files of those thanks very much. Then you get censorship being used on the Christmas "Steptoe and Son" episodes and some episodes of "Are You Being Served?" So, best bet is to get a copy of the original transmissions so if and when you buy the DVD versions and they've been cut or altered, you still have the copy of the original transmission to enjoy. |
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Post by Koen Br on Nov 27, 2008 23:49:33 GMT
Steptoe and son BBC4 play Bonekickers Crumpet All of these shows will be reedited if shown again (ever) So will uncensored versions of these be considered rare and unusual in 50 years time I wonder? I suppose I've missed something, why are you assuming these particular programmes will be edited on future broadcasts? I have to admit the Steptoe and Son play is the only one from the list I've actually seen, and that would probably be more enjoyable if they cut the bit between the opening and closing credits. ;D |
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Post by Paul Ryan on Nov 27, 2008 23:57:49 GMT
My guess is that (as with so many tv series) the music rights only apply to the television airings, with no provision for any future media. So if you want uneditied versions with the original music, you'll need to tape em' off the telly, or download em. Not that I endorse the latter, of course!
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Post by Andy Howells on Nov 28, 2008 8:53:21 GMT
Yes I've noticed cuts to many shows wgile taping them from Satellite. There were a few nips to Two Ronnies shows where certain jokes were regarded as none PC and UK Gold even produced there own condensed versions of certain episodes.
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Post by Alan Jeffries on Nov 28, 2008 10:51:00 GMT
Yes, it is a sad situation when classic shows fall foul of the PC brigade. I believe there's a couple of Hancock radio shows that never get aired.
I can understand the rights issues for older shows, but would hope that the rights are secured for music used in recent shows to allow their release unedited. It may be a pipe dream of mine.
I sometimes feel that TV will end up being at a CBBC level.
When I was a kid ITV were always cutting shows. I always remember it happening with the ITC shows. The repeats of the Persuaders had all the tag scenes cut. And that was the version that remained in place for years, probably unseen tags until the video releases.
Alan
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Post by Stuart Huggett on Nov 28, 2008 11:38:07 GMT
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Post by Daniel O'Brien on Nov 28, 2008 14:16:03 GMT
I can see why Corbett's family would be upset by the play. Even as a casual viewer, I felt the script took some questionable liberties with the facts. On a more mundane level, the play didn't establish that there was a four year gap between the last b/w and the first colour series of 'Steptoe'. I'm no expert on Corbett and Brambell but I don't think their careers flourished during this interim period. They may have grown to hate 'Steptoe' - and possibly each other - but the series brought them a level of exposure and success they never experienced elsewhere. |
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