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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 14:13:02 GMT
Hi there cave dwellers! does anyone have any info on a Granada TV programme in which the late Tony Wilson was doing a feature on music or something. and he went down inside the Cavern Club it had closed down by then, the place was full of cobwebs etc; This must have been the early 70s as the Cavern was demolished in 1973! Id love to see this bit of film again or anything on the Cavern .
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Post by Peter Elliott on Nov 4, 2008 14:39:38 GMT
Not heard of this before and strange to read about it too since last September the band I was lead singer with played The Cavern (as it is now) and we actually did a one off Joy Division cover which we dedicated to Wilson's memory. Strange to read a year later he did a feature in The Cavern years earlier! Will ask around and see if anybody I know remembers this film.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 16:05:28 GMT
Thanks ,yeah the filmed feature was only very short it could've been part of the Granada news. But I remember Tony Wilson walking down the cavern steps and as I have mentioned the place was covered in cobwebs, etc; The year could have been 1971 or 1972 .
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Post by SydV on Nov 4, 2008 21:10:50 GMT
Not the Tony Wilson clip, but this may be of interest….
26/Jan/1973
Granada News
7mins20sec
8mm colour
“David Henshaw visits the Cavern Club in Liverpool, which is due to close down to make way for an underground railway. Interviews with Alan Williams, who used to manage the Beatles and Roy Adams who runs the club. Both talk about the famous groups who used to appear at the club and the atmosphere that they created. Close up of sign "Matthew Street". Exterior establishing shots of 'Cavern' sign outside. Pan along posters on a wall of club. Establishing shot of Liver building. Interior of club; couple of shots on stage.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2008 10:40:40 GMT
Thanks sounds very interesting wouldnt mind seeing this,anything on the Cavern.
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Nov 5, 2008 11:20:28 GMT
There some terrific footage here: www.bbc.co.uk/archive/mersey/index.shtmlWhat a mistake to knock down the original cavern! No one had the foresight in the 70's to see what a tourist draw it would be! Allan Williams always makes me laugh! He always go on about how rich he could have been if he could have been if he had managed the Beatles, yet I have lost track of the number of Beatles docus he has appeared on. What a tidy little earner! |
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Post by Peter Elliott on Nov 5, 2008 12:25:22 GMT
There some terrific footage here: www.bbc.co.uk/archive/mersey/index.shtmlWhat a mistake to knock down the original cavern! No one had the foresight in the 70's to see what a tourist draw it would be! Allan Williams always makes me laugh! He always go on about how rich he could have been if he could have been if he had managed the Beatles, yet I have lost track of the number of Beatles docus he has appeared on. What a tidy little earner! Yes, demolishing The Cavern was a ludicrous decision and when they rebuilt it, they actually built it the wrong way round so I have been informed by quite a few. Even more absurd now is there is a big photo and sign indicating where the original door actually was which has appeared in the last year. Allan Williams! lol... now there's a character and a half if ever there is one! A very prickly guy who will talk about The Beatles for the right price. I used to see him about quite often... he used to meet up with Bob Wooler in a local wine bar before Wooler died. He's notoriously stingy as well and one of my pals who worked in one bar said that on one rare occasion Williams left a paltry tip and they ended up framing it! |
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Nov 5, 2008 15:08:40 GMT
Bob was beaten up by John Lennon allegedly/
Interesting how they ask the doorman what he got out of the Beatle era and he said nothing except memories. Did he expect to become a multi-millionaire simply by being a doorman at a club the Fab Four played at.
I think for all the love and peace there is a fair amount of resentment in Liverpool when it comes to the Beatles.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2008 12:24:12 GMT
There some terrific footage here: www.bbc.co.uk/archive/mersey/index.shtmlWhat a mistake to knock down the original cavern! No one had the foresight in the 70's to see what a tourist draw it would be! Allan Williams always makes me laugh! He always go on about how rich he could have been if he could have been if he had managed the Beatles, yet I have lost track of the number of Beatles docus he has appeared on. What a tidy little earner! Thanks yeah it was great to see inside the real Cavern, and in color,terrific stuff! |
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Feb 21, 2009 21:13:42 GMT
Sadly Paddy the doorman in this footage has died.
Legendary Cavern doorman dies, 77
Feb 10 2009 Liverpool Daily Post
A FORMER doorman who famously ticked off two of the Beatles for breaking the Cavern’s strict dress code has died.
Patrick "Paddy" Delaney was known across Liverpool after he ran the door at the Mathew Street club for more than 13 years.
He always wore a tuxedo and rigorously enforced the club’s dress code – ticking off John Lennon and George Harrison for their sloppy attire.
Father-of-six Mr Delaney died on Saturday morning, aged 77, having deteriorated rapidly after a fall.
His son Lawrence Delaney, 40, said: "Everyone knew dad from for his days the Cavern."
"He once saw John Lennon in that green combat jacket he always wore and said ‘You’re going nowhere’.
"John protested that he was playing that night so dad relented and let him in but told him to smarten himself up.
"They became good friends and used to go for drinks in the Grapes a lot together.
"George Harrison was the same. He stopped him because he was wearing jeans."
Mr Delaney, whose wife, Margaret, died in 2003, and who leaves 12 grandchildren, took the job in 1960 for £1 a night.
He knew everything that went on in Mathew Street, and once stepped in after seeing Bill Clinton being hassled in the Grapes in the 1960s.
He also helped police cope with protesting fans when the Cavern club closed in 1973, and was the last person to leave the famous building.
His knowledge of the club was so great he was enlisted to help re- build it without drawings in the 1980s.
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Post by Gary Critcher on Feb 21, 2009 22:14:15 GMT
'His knowledge of the club was so great he was enlisted to help re- build it without drawings in the 1980s.'
He couldn't have had that good a memory as they re-built it round the wrong way! LOL. Only joking!
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