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Post by John Andersen on Oct 30, 2007 16:03:10 GMT
DWO has finally stated on its website in a reply to a poster that "The Web of Fear rumour is sadly looking like a false alarm. DWO received information from 3 reliable sources, but unfortunately it appears to have reached a dead end."
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Post by Greg H on Oct 30, 2007 16:07:47 GMT
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Post by Steven Sigel on Oct 30, 2007 17:39:36 GMT
I think it crumbled a long time ago... I really find their defense of why they posted it rather amusing.... Can you imagine if the BBC news announced things with the same lack of evidence that they did ?
BTW - that film clip looks like roughly 1 minute of footage from episode 1... There are complete prints of episode 1 around in private hands for sure - it was one of the prints that was "borrowed" from the BBC and copied in the '80s.
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Post by John Andersen on Oct 30, 2007 18:03:58 GMT
Didn't the BBC film an introduction with Michael Craze when they thought they reovered episode 4 of The Tenth Planet? I'm sure Michael Craze appreciated getting paid, but that is pretty embarrassing for the BBC to film an intro for an episode that is still lost.
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Post by Ron Bowes on Oct 31, 2007 23:26:10 GMT
Steven - DWO is not the BBC! Newspapers print unfounded "truths" every day of the week. They were hoping to land a scoop and if it had worked out they would have been congratulated. I remember when the Wheel in Space episodes were found. DWM reported a rumour, in much the same way as DWO, and it was a full 3 months before it was confirmed that the episode had indeed been found.
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Post by Steven Sigel on Oct 31, 2007 23:52:28 GMT
I don't know what newspapers you read - but good journalism requires that you check and recheck before you publish stuff like that. My point still holds - if they want to portray themselves as a news source, they need to behave like one.
Dan Rather lost his job over broadcasting a story that hadn't been properly checked.
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Post by Daniel O'Brien on Nov 1, 2007 8:46:59 GMT
Steven - DWO is not the BBC! Newspapers print unfounded "truths" every day of the week. They were hoping to land a scoop and if it had worked out they would have been congratulated. I remember when the Wheel in Space episodes were found. DWM reported a rumour, in much the same way as DWO, and it was a full 3 months before it was confirmed that the episode had indeed been found. I'd never heard of DWO prior to the 'Web of Fear' incident. They may be a normally reliable news source but, frankly, this wasn't the best introduction to them. I can well believe that they hoped to land a scoop, which explains why they trumpeted a rumour with no verification from a relevant BBC source. I've no idea who their three dependable sources were, but they seem less reliable now. DWM may have been premature in reporting the recovery of 'Wheel in Space' 3, but at least their 'rumour' turned out to be true. By the way, has DWO embarked on its massive missing episodes hunt yet?
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Post by John Andersen on Nov 1, 2007 14:07:46 GMT
I'd never heard of DWO prior to the 'Web of Fear' incident. They may be a normally reliable news source but, frankly, this wasn't the best introduction to them. I can well believe that they hoped to land a scoop, which explains why they trumpeted a rumour with no verification from a relevant BBC source. I've no idea who their three dependable sources were, but they seem less reliable now. DWM may have been premature in reporting the recovery of 'Wheel in Space' 3, but at least their 'rumour' turned out to be true. By the way, has DWO embarked on its massive missing episodes hunt yet? I had not heard of DWO until this Web Of Fear debacle, either. It looks kind of fishy that they would report a rumor that a classic has been found, and then they do an immediate follow-up on that story by announcing a missing episode hunt. Could this have been a publicity stunt for the missing episode hunt that has backfired?
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Post by Ron Bowes on Nov 1, 2007 19:14:48 GMT
lLet me see unfounded news reports. Most medical scares - AIDS would wipe us out, Mad cows disease epidemic was inevitable, the Milleneum bug would have airplanes crashing from the skies, Salmon industry nearly put out of business by spurious reports of pb levels in salmon, most "Sun" entertainment reports. I really could write a book. As for the DWM incident - I am the proud owner of many of these backdated magazines and I can assure you it was true. I have just recently read the issue in question. The search for missing episodes was mentioned at least at the time of the rumour, possibly before. I can't be sure of that.
Ron
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Post by Greg H on Nov 1, 2007 19:20:27 GMT
I have a vague and fuzzy memory of DWB running a story that tenth planet 4 had been recovered in 92ish. Am I imagining that?
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Post by Ron Bowes on Nov 2, 2007 0:20:56 GMT
The BBC did think they had found the episode, but the tape turned out to be blank.
Ron
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2007 2:33:34 GMT
I remember when the Wheel in Space episodes were found. DWM reported a rumour, in much the same way as DWO, and it was a full 3 months before it was confirmed that the episode had indeed been found. The circumstances were different in the case of Wheel in Space 3. The episode was definitely known to exist, the owner having shown it to members of the DWAS local group he belonged to. He even provided an off-screen photo for their fanzine. IIRC, Gary Russell wrote the piece in DWM as a way of encouraging the owner to return the episode.
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Post by Ron Bowes on Nov 2, 2007 11:03:45 GMT
True. DWO did raise hopes and they were dashed, because it was no more than a rumour. But who on this site believed it in the first place? Every time a mention of a missing Dr Who episode occurs, it is treated with great skepticism! (With good reason most of the time). I honestly don't think ant great harm was done! It was not done with malicious intent - unlike a heck of a lot of the rumours started.
Ron
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Post by Ash Stewart on Nov 2, 2007 16:54:25 GMT
Both DWB and DWM printed articles on missing episode rumours in the past; DWM hasn't done so in quite some time, though.
DWM certainly reported on a TP4 rumour in the 80s, and the 92 rumour was the culmination of the "Roger Barrett" malarkey, who returned a tape to the BBC claiming it had TP4 on it, when it was actually blank. Most, if not all, of the TP4 rumours can be traced back to his shenanigans.
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Post by John Andersen on Nov 2, 2007 19:41:40 GMT
True. DWO did raise hopes and they were dashed, because it was no more than a rumour. But who on this site believed it in the first place? Every time a mention of a missing Dr Who episode occurs, it is treated with great skepticism! (With good reason most of the time). I honestly don't think ant great harm was done! It was not done with malicious intent - unlike a heck of a lot of the rumours started. Ron I had hope until I found out more about Sebastian Brook's past in the Doctor Who community. Once I heard more about him, then I felt The Web Of Fear report was a publicity stunt to get more attention for his website.
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