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Post by Galen R on Oct 1, 2006 14:23:58 GMT
With all the talk of recovering episodes from foriegn television stations. Has anyone actually tired to contact some of the television stations in Africa that showed Doctor Who in the 60's and 70's. I realize that it would be next to impossible in some countries like Sierra Leone that have been destabilized from years of war. But other countries such as Uganda and Nigeria bought a large portion of Hartnell/Troughton episodes. Has anybody attempted contacting any of these stations?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Oct 1, 2006 16:06:58 GMT
Yes, they've been contacted on several occasions.
Richard
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Post by galen on Oct 1, 2006 17:43:40 GMT
Do we know how episodes were cycled in Africa. Meaning which country recieved them first and the country to recieve them last. I still believe that there has to be a slight possibility that maybe some episode remains. Most recovered episodes from foriegn stations have come from Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and Hong Kong. And that has been where most of the focus has been on by episode hunters. With episodes of Dr. Who being sold to multiple African Countries. Does anyone believe that there could be a chance, or has the well dried up.
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Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on Oct 2, 2006 0:29:36 GMT
Now to be fair ... a couple of episodes of "The Time Meddler" were indeed recovered from Nigeria, although they were edited prints. The prints had been cycled from New Zealand (where the edits had been made) and somehow ended up in Nigeria when they were found.
Now here's an idea: There was a rumour that "Power of the Daleks" was broadcast in Ghana in 1986 before the TV archive burnt down two years later. Is there any possibility that anyone in Ghana could have had a VCR and taped any missing Who, assuming there were any Troughtons broadcast in the 1980's in that country? And how would one go about finding out this info?
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Post by B Thomas on Oct 2, 2006 2:09:56 GMT
Finding the info should be reasonably straight forward - it's readily available from others posting here (with years of experience in this subject).
"The Power of the Daleks" 1986 screening in Ghana has long been disproved as rumour and/or hoax. Ghana never had a copy of this serial (which, apparently, was only ever sold to three countries; Australia, New Zealand and Singapore).
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 2, 2006 2:35:55 GMT
Finding the info should be reasonably straight forward - it's readily available from others posting here (with years of experience in this subject). "The Power of the Daleks" 1986 screening in Ghana has long been disproved as rumour and/or hoax. Ghana never had a copy of this serial (which, apparently, was only ever sold to three countries; Australia, New Zealand and Singapore). And let's not forget that the Singapore print was sent there from New Zealand - so in all likelihood, there were only ever *two* separate prints struck for "Power" - Australia had its own copy (to be cycled around its territories, then held for a later repeat), while the second was the NZ/Singapore copy. Jon Preddle
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Post by B Thomas on Oct 2, 2006 4:27:14 GMT
Hello Jon - just arrived home from work then?
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Post by galen on Oct 2, 2006 4:36:53 GMT
What about Zambia, they purchased quite a large amount of Hartnell/Troughton episodes. Has anything been recovered from them or been contacted.
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Post by B Thomas on Oct 2, 2006 4:38:28 GMT
No and Yes - (in that order, I'm sure)
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Post by galen on Oct 2, 2006 7:19:46 GMT
I apoligize for keep harping on the subject. But I have a friend who lives in Kampala in Uganda, his father works for the goverment tv station. I wanted to know would it be a waste of time if he looked into records to see if they might still hold BBC material, or is there a chance. Was wondering what people on this board think
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Post by Daniel O'Brien on Oct 2, 2006 8:08:31 GMT
Wasn't 'The War Machines' recovered from Nigeria, albeit incomplete?
If you have a contact in Ugandan TV, there's no harm in making inquiries. That said, I think most of these avenues were explored back in the 1980s. Few TV stations would now have reason to retain b/w 16mm film prints.
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Post by Damian Morse on Oct 2, 2006 9:30:09 GMT
I apoligize for keep harping on the subject. But I have a friend who lives in Kampala in Uganda, his father works for the goverment tv station. I wanted to know would it be a waste of time if he looked into records to see if they might still hold BBC material, or is there a chance. Was wondering what people on this board think Definitely ask him to check if there are any Doctor who prints!!!
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Post by B Thomas on Oct 2, 2006 12:17:47 GMT
Or, indeed, anything else that might be old and possibly missing - even if it's not "Dr Who". As we all know it's not the only TV show missing episodes...
Having said all this - these organisations have been asked before...
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Post by LanceM on Oct 2, 2006 15:00:45 GMT
War Machines and Time Meddler are the only who prints that have been recovered from Africa ( To my knowledge ). It would not surprise me though that there could be more missing material residing in Africa. Possibly not Doctor Who, but possibly some missing material. Could there be some remote TV stations in Africa, possibly could contain some more missing material ? Zambia in particular was sent a large number of who episodes, as well as Nigeria. I believe these leads have been sought after in the past quite a few times, however it never hurts to ask. Sorry If I am repeating old info, if so I apologise. What about the prospect that employees of these TV stations might of taken some souviners home ? Possibly like what Francis Watson did with Day Of Armageddon ? At any rate, I hope something more is found. By all means Galen, ask your friend to inquire about old BBC programes, or UK TV for that matter. Never hurts to ask, especially when you have a friend in the TV industry.
Lance.
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Post by wrightblan on Oct 11, 2006 18:43:17 GMT
Yes, they've been contacted on several occasions. Richard I know that African stations have been contacted before, but I've always wondered how thorough the searches have been. Somehow, I've always felt that they weren't exactly of the fine-toothed comb type of searches. More like the "Hey Murray, can you take a quick look in the back to see if there are any old Doctor Who shows back there?" kind.
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