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Post by Todd on Jan 19, 2006 18:35:45 GMT
this copy, since the surviving one is not good quality. There is nothing wrong with the quality of of the surviving telerecording of Episode 1. It's a perfectly decent 16mm film print. Richard Indeed it is... Very nice... I know the person who has it.
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Post by Todd on Jan 19, 2006 18:37:00 GMT
I seem to remember reading that it's slightly blurred down one side(or perhaps I getting it confused with another) Don't think so... The print of "Abominable Snowmen (2)" has a scratch on the left hand side of the frame which the RT cleaned up for the DVD. Perhaps that's what you are thinking of?
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Post by Robbie Moubert on Jan 20, 2006 1:32:52 GMT
"Recently..." ? "Now known" ? Er, that's been common knowledge for a number of years! I've known that since the mid-1990s at least. FFS. Bully for you. I was trying to give a concise answer. "Recently" - As I was basically repeating what Richard said in a recent thread on the RT Forum, I mentioned that fact. "Now known" - As in, it wasn't always known. Now it is.
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Post by JeffStone on Jan 21, 2006 1:14:58 GMT
"Recently..." ? "Now known"?
Er, that's been common knowledge for a number of years! I've known that since the mid-1990s at least. I dunno if it was 'common knowledge', Jon. Even most DW fans wouldn't know that, because only a relatively small minority care about the technical side of the show to the extent required in order to *give a damn*. ;D
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Post by LanceM on Jan 21, 2006 4:34:15 GMT
And don't forget the 8 or 9 seconds of mute film on episode two of Abominable Snowmen.
Lance
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Post by Martin Dunne on Jan 22, 2006 5:53:16 GMT
This last run of repeats in Australia which is finishing soon was the first time I've seen it. When it was being repeated here in the 80's (the last time I think was in 84 or 85?) the story started from Episode 2 which I thought was odd. Invasion of the Dinosuars played prevously in September '86, in the Petwee run following The Mind Robber and The Krotons. Episode one premiered on ABC in September 2004! -- sfsa.org.au/, the South Australian Doctor Who Fan Club, Inc.
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Post by Ron Mallett on Jan 22, 2006 13:32:53 GMT
Martin - Thanks. Actually 86 must be right. I had an accident that day and seriously smacked the side of my head. It swelled up like a balloon. I went home (after visiting the hospital) lay down on the couch at home to watch the show. I remember thinking when it came up as Episode 2 instead of 2 that I must have hit my head harder than I thought!
I think I can remember watching the Tom Baker and Pertwee stories around 82 or 3. Is that right? I think that was the first time I saw many of them. So the hiatus re-runs would have been the second time I saw them including the dinosaurs story.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 22, 2006 19:50:53 GMT
"Recently..." ? "Now known"?
Er, that's been common knowledge for a number of years! I've known that since the mid-1990s at least. I dunno if it was 'common knowledge', Jon. Even most DW fans wouldn't know that, because only a relatively small minority care about the technical side of the show to the extent required in order to *give a damn*. ;D Okay then, Common knowledge to readers of Data Extract then... Jon
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Post by Martin Dunne on Jan 23, 2006 0:55:33 GMT
I think I can remember watching the Tom Baker and Pertwee stories around 82 or 3. Is that right? I think that was the first time I saw many of them. So the hiatus re-runs would have been the second time I saw them including the dinosaurs story. That'd be right, the Pertwees had been repeated in '83. The next part of my survey of ABC transmissions is forthcoming, less interesting than the heroic cycling era but it will answer questions like these.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 23, 2006 1:51:30 GMT
That'd be right, the Pertwees had been repeated in '83. The next part of my survey of ABC transmissions is forthcoming, less interesting than the heroic cycling era but it will answer questions like these. Hi Martin! Will this be a complete listing of all Australian airings, or just a text summary like you did in Chameleon Factor? Jon
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Post by Martin Dunne on Jan 23, 2006 7:27:45 GMT
Hi Martin! Will this be a complete listing of all Australian airings, or just a text summary like you did in Chameleon Factor? Jon Sorry, should have said; just the text summary, the complete listings are better for reference but not as easy on the eye!
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Post by ronmallett on Jan 23, 2006 13:41:07 GMT
The next part of my survey of ABC transmissions is forthcoming, less interesting than the heroic cycling era but it will answer questions like these. Martin, Thanks for the info. Do you mean that you have a list of transmission dates for the 86 repeats at the South Australian site? I visited to site and couldn't find it. Nice site though.
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Post by Martin Dunne on Jan 23, 2006 14:26:50 GMT
Martin, Thanks for the info. Do you mean that you have a list of transmission dates for the 86 repeats at the South Australian site? I visited to site and couldn't find it. Nice site though. Sorry, Ron, no I don't. To start at the start; in 2003 Gary Zimmer started publishing a survey of the listings for Who from the Melbourne Sun. This was called "Simple as ABC" and appeared in the Doctor Who Club of Victoria's Sonic Screwdriver. I thought it was such a great idea that I ripped it off but with more bells and whistles. I surveyed the whole country. I was defeated by the poor listings in the Tasmanian press, and the occasionally poor listings in the Canberra Times. This was published in the SADWFC's Chameleon Factor in November 2003 as "A Separate Adventure" (The Advertiser's title for A Desperate Venture). As you might have guessed it was in a narrative text format. It was always meant to be complemented by the raw data being available, however my friend with the searchable database online hasn't updated his site. So back to your question, we plan to offer it (and everything including the kitchen sink) on the site. Eventually.
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Post by Jeff Stone on Jan 24, 2006 11:28:34 GMT
I dunno if it was 'common knowledge', Jon. Even most DW fans wouldn't know that, because only a relatively small minority care about the technical side of the show to the extent required in order to *give a damn*. ;D[/quote] Okay then, Common knowledge to readers of Data Extract then...
Jon[/quote][/b] Yes...many's the day that DE readers will gather over mulled 7-Up and talk late into the early afternoon about the provenance of tele-recorded film copies of video tapes...shortly before deciding whether or not to commit mass suicide.... As with Planet Of The Daleks #3, simply VidFiring and then colourizing the episode is the best way to go. Surely it can't cost that much to do it nowadays, especially since some enterprising folks ponied up the dough to newly colourise Night Of The Living Dead a few years ago. I imagine sales of that particular DVD would be well below that reached by an issue of POTD on disc, so it must be cost-effective to do it in this space year of 2006. In the end, though, getting worked up about a missing episode that isn't actually missing seems to me to be a bit, well, wanky.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 24, 2006 22:03:33 GMT
I dunno if it was 'common knowledge', Jon. Even most DW fans wouldn't know that, because only a relatively small minority care about the technical side of the show to the extent required in order to *give a damn*. ;D But if one doesn't know or understand the "technical side" of the show, then how on earth does one expect to find anything if they don;t knwo where to look or what to look for??? My own researches into NZBC haven't resulted in finding any missing eps, but I've learned a lot about the "technical" side and processes that NZBC used in the 1960s and1970s. And having that background info has helped focus and narrow my search parameters down quite considerably. Jon
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