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Post by Gary C on Oct 7, 2005 19:35:28 GMT
When I worked in the VT Library I think we sent out computer print-outs of holdings every six months or so, to department heads. When that returned with either 'wipe' or 'keep' marked on it, then we got on with as and when.
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Post by LanceM on Oct 7, 2005 20:35:19 GMT
Large corporations now days are extremely careful about what sort of info they give and who they give that info to. This idea seems plausable, I believe that someone in the RT Team or someone who currently works for the BBC in a strong position could make a request. Although this idea sounds great on this board I highly doubt that anything will happen. Foreign archives seem to be a good place to look for missing material, as there are several missing stories whose fates are unknown. Such as Galaxy 4, Abominable Snowmen, and Power of the Daleks.
Lance.
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Post by Clive Shaw on Oct 8, 2005 9:04:16 GMT
I believe that someone in the RT Team or someone who currently works for the BBC in a strong position could make a request. Lance, have you read Richards previous responses No one is going to allow anyone access to personnel records. The last thing the BBC wants is ex-colleagues, many in retirement to be hassled by fanboys and be accused of having stolen film reels.
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Post by pete seaton on Oct 8, 2005 9:31:53 GMT
to begin. we are all guilty at some point in time.
how many videotapes did you have when you first had when you first had a betamax video recorder, that over time those tapes have been randomly thrown away during a clear out to take in a VHS recorder ??
and the same happens now with the DVD age, and some people (not me though), will throw away without a second thought thir VHS collection, and they have never ever heard of Missing Episodes.....
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Post by ethantyler on Oct 8, 2005 19:21:55 GMT
Large corporations now days are extremely careful about what sort of info they give and who they give that info to. This idea seems plausable, I believe that someone in the RT Team or someone who currently works for the BBC in a strong position could make a request. Although this idea sounds great on this board I highly doubt that anything will happen. Foreign archives seem to be a good place to look for missing material, as there are several missing stories whose fates are unknown. Such as Galaxy 4, Abominable Snowmen, and Power of the Daleks. It's never going to happen. I could write a short essay explaining why, but, mercifully, I won't! It would be a very long shot anyway. If someone did "save" some prints, we should just sit tight and hope that they return them in time.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 8, 2005 22:07:11 GMT
This idea seems plausable, I believe that someone in the RT Team or someone who currently works for the BBC in a strong position could make a request. Although this idea sounds great on this board I highly doubt that anything will happen. Lance. The RT *do* work for the BBC, and if anything are in the best position to do this sort of thing, and which they do! You seem to think that nothing official is being done regarding searching for missing material. Believe me that's not the case at all! Jon
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Post by Matthew K Sharp on Oct 9, 2005 2:38:11 GMT
Let's face it, in the very unlikely event that a BBC ex-employee is found who did actually sneak an episode out of the Corporation, it'll probably be bloody Space Pirates 2 again...
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Post by ethantyler on Oct 9, 2005 3:20:26 GMT
Let's face it, in the very unlikely event that a BBC ex-employee is found who did actually sneak an episode out of the Corporation, it'll probably be bloody Space Pirates 2 again... Or worse, The Space Pirates 1. (Only joking. I love The Space Pirates!)
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Post by Clive Shaw on Oct 9, 2005 7:30:52 GMT
The RT *do* work for the BBC, and if anything are in the best position to do this sort of thing, and which they do! You seem to think that nothing official is being done regarding searching for missing material. Believe me that's not the case at all! Jon Yes, some members of the RT do work for the BBC, but this gives them no more access to BBC employment records etc, then it does for you and me. Rather than looking at the people who junked the films, I would guess that anyone who still had reels would have been the production staff of DW who might have held onto reels as an example of the work they had done. Even so, I guess this would be very unlikely as most members of DW production would know of missing DW and if they had anything, would likely have returned it already, just so an example of their work could be seen by a wider audience. IF there are still DW reels out there, then they will turn up natually, as collectors die off and their collections end up being sold off or whatever. Searching for DW is a waiting game more than anything, there is very little us or the RT team can do to hurry up that process.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Oct 9, 2005 19:58:01 GMT
IF there are still DW reels out there, then they will turn up natually, as collectors die off and their collections end up being sold off or whatever. Searching for DW is a waiting game more than anything, there is very little us or the RT team can do to hurry up that process. Unless we shoot them in a vain hope their collections turn up on eBay. Seriously when I worked at Sky there were heaps of confidentiality forms we had to fill out, and ‘the fear of God’ was used often to make sure a new staff member stayed in line. As tempting as it is to take something home after it had been scheduled for junking, I’m afraid I don’t have a digibeta machine at home to play it on! The only thing I’ve ever taken from work was a few DVDs that had been thrown in the trash (long story, not going into it here). Me and a few others went out hoping for bargains – and I came away with Pyramids of Mars! Sold it later on as I didn’t care for the story! Still, it had a “I’ve found a Dr Who episode in the trash” feeling to it…
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Post by James Phillips on Oct 9, 2005 20:20:14 GMT
No they won't. As I have *already* explained, HR departments simply do not, and will not give out that sort of information. If you don't believe me, try walking into the Personnel department of the company you work for and ask for that sort of information! We do live under the auspices of the Data Protection Act you know! As Peter says, it's about being realistic about things. Pessimism doesn't even enter into it. Richard Fine, thanks for showing me what is wrong with my idea, that is all what it was: an idea. I didn't ask you to go and demand details. Don't condemn people for ideas, I like most people have little idea how the BBC works or such. Touchy! It didn't sound to me as though Richard was condemning you for anything - merely pointing out the shortfalls in your idea. No need to go off in a huff!
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Post by Scott J. on Oct 9, 2005 21:05:27 GMT
Fine, thanks for showing me what is wrong with my idea, that is all what it was: an idea. I didn't ask you to go and demand details. Don't condemn people for ideas, I like most people have little idea how the BBC works or such. Touchy! It didn't sound to me as though Richard was condemning you for anything - merely pointing out the shortfalls in your idea. No need to go off in a huff! I didn't go off in a huff thanks, just realising what are throughly ridiculous idea I had and thanking Richard for showing the fatal flaws in my plans for world domination or at least to try and find some missing material
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 9, 2005 22:58:57 GMT
Touchy! It didn't sound to me as though Richard was condemning you for anything - merely pointing out the shortfalls in your idea. No need to go off in a huff! I didn't go off in a huff thanks, just realising what are throughly ridiculous idea I had and thanking Richard for showing the fatal flaws in my plans for world domination or at least to try and find some missing material Recently, I found files in a government archive, which contains a lot of information I would love to get my hands on - much of it relates to programme purchasing - but due to Privacy Act requirements, the information is "locked" and can't be released to the public for another 80 years!!!! Who knows, this file might contain documents that reveal what happened to all the film primnts that NZBC once had in their possession, but no one currently alive is going to be able to access this info! As Richard and other people have posted to this forum time and time again, some posters need to actually THINK about what they're suggesting before hitting SEND; the idea might seem a good one theoreticaly, but in the real world of laws, statutes and regulations it's a hole different matter... Jon
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Post by Brad Phipps on Oct 10, 2005 0:28:00 GMT
Recently, I found files in a government archive, which contains a lot of information I would love to get my hands on - much of it relates to programme purchasing - but due to Privacy Act requirements, the information is "locked" and can't be released to the public for another 80 years!!!! Who knows, this file might contain documents that reveal what happened to all the film primnts that NZBC once had in their possession, but no one currently alive is going to be able to access this info! I'm still young at heart, although you did say public - all you have to do is train to become someone that is allowed to... handle the files. As Richard and other people have posted to this forum time and time again, some posters need to actually THINK about what they're suggesting before hitting SEND Jon wears ladies underwear.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 10, 2005 5:08:15 GMT
Recently, I found files in a government archive, which contains a lot of information I would love to get my hands on - much of it relates to programme purchasing - but due to Privacy Act requirements, the information is "locked" and can't be released to the public for another 80 years!!!! Who knows, this file might contain documents that reveal what happened to all the film primnts that NZBC once had in their possession, but no one currently alive is going to be able to access this info! I'm still young at heart, although you did say public - all you have to do is train to become someone that is allowed to... handle the files. As Richard and other people have posted to this forum time and time again, some posters need to actually THINK about what they're suggesting before hitting SEND Jon wears ladies underwear. Congratulations, Brad! Your posting was number 666 to this thread! Jon
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