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Post by Jeff Stone on Oct 2, 2005 7:45:21 GMT
Quite sure. Are you sure you want to be sued for implying I am? Jeff
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Post by Jeff Stone on Oct 2, 2005 7:48:31 GMT
Hey dude, I don't mind if people find a problem with my reasoning. I just object to smartarses. Makes sense. I just assumed that someone with film reels would have a projector. You are of course very correct. I thought the outcome of this one was fascinating - neither real nor a hoax, but a real legitimate auction of a cod Who reel made up for non-hoax purposes. brilliant! Yes! This is what I mean by this being a strange and confusing story. Not this 'broadside' nonsense. Jeff
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Post by Jeff Stone who else on Oct 2, 2005 7:52:39 GMT
You of all people here should know A) I'm not a dummy and B) have no patience for being patronised. As I myself said, this matter is not exactly A1 on my priority list right now. I just find Bignell's attitude towards me condescending. As of now, I have completely lost interest in this. About what? This Mission hoax or me being crazy? I'm not crazy, Jon. Sometimes I wish I was, but I'm quite astonishingly sane. Jeff
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Post by Steven Sigel on Oct 2, 2005 14:27:45 GMT
Actually, Jeff, I've spotted a flaw. I hope you don't mind if I mention it. I'm really honestly not having a go. IT'S REAL - Alright, it's real. If so, why has this guy not provided any proof that it is? How hard would it be to spool the film onto a projector, play the film and take a video clip of, say, Marc Cory (no footage of him is known to exist) with a cellphone camera? If you're gonna play a few dozen feet, why not watch...I dunno...a few HUNDRED feet? Just to make sure? You're assuming that anyone who owns a piece of film also has access to a projector to view it. In this day and age, when 16mm projectors are thin on the ground, it's not always easy to find quick access to one. (In fact I don't know anyone who has a projector - last time I had to identify a bit of mystery 16mm, I had to have it telecined by a friend at another TV station.) It's not fun unspooling a reel of film by hand - you have to be careful or it goes everywhere! If you have to check the head of the film by unspooling it manually, you do as little as possible. The other thing is that a layperson would have no idea of the significance of Marc Cory or any other character in the show, or whether they turn up in other episodes. Don't forget that there are poor misguided people out there in the world who don't care much about Doctor Who and wouldn't even recognise a missing episode if it was waved under their noses (as was the case here, whereas you or I would see a film reel labeled "Mission To The Unknown" and have momentary heart failure...). I thought the outcome of this one was fascinating - neither real nor a hoax, but a real legitimate auction of a cod Who reel made up for non-hoax purposes. brilliant! Hi Mark --- Just one quick point (having nothing to do with this particular case) -- I unspool the heads of reels of film constantly to figure out what they are... It's not that difficult... I got a batch of dozens of prints where nothing was labeled. Took me a couple minutes a print to figure out what most of them are. Only had to put a small number on a projector... If the print is undamaged, then there's usually printed in information at both the head and tail of the reel which tells you what it is. Failing that, you can usually unspool to the opening titles and read them (with a magnifying glass if necessary). Only in the case where you have a reel where the heads and tails are missing and there are not titles would you have more trouble Identifying it.. Dr. Who prints are especially easy... They have lots of stuff written in the head, and the opening titles are very distinctive...
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Post by Darren Menzie on Oct 6, 2005 1:32:49 GMT
After reading this and other forums there is one thing I don't understand, why so many contradictory explanations about this ebay auction one story has just two film cans sold to the dealer another a box of cans with has two Dr Who films in it. One story says a deceased estate from his grandfather,another one was his brothers collection. The dealer says that he knows the person who sold him the films quite well but the original owner cannot find out the name of the dealer from his brother in over a month. Too many inconsistencies. I've no doubt that its all a big muck up. The thing that worries me is that everyone in their attempts to explain what is happening appear to be only telling half the story which can lead to the conclusion that things are not as they seem.
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